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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 03:59 PM
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OCT Invasion on DU - let`s roll it up
Edited on Thu Aug-31-06 04:04 PM by medienanalyse
for instance

go to google

type rumsfeld and 9/11

take the first hit of more than 10 millions.
(correction: today it is #2. But of more than 12 million hits. Seems to be an interesting issue to combine the two ...)


read and think about defense and media and what needs to be done.

Or go directly to
http://www.medienanalyse-international.de/rumsfeld.html
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 06:41 AM
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1. Other Ministers / Secretaries of Defense
from the website - see the links there:

Other (Defense) Ministers about 9/11

- Paul Hellyer, former National Defense Minister of Canada: "... Why did the President just sit in the schoolroom when he heard the news? Why did he not acknowledge that he already knew what was going on? As a former Minister of National Defense, when the news came out I had to wonder. Why did airplanes fly around for an hour and a half without interceptors being scrambled from Andrews ? Is it Andrews right next to the capitol?
... With a quick action alert they should have been there in five minutes or ten minutes. If not, as the Minister of National Defense, which in the United States is the Secretary of Defense, I would want to say "why not?"
Here the Hellyer interview as a videoclip

- Head of Russian airforce

- Michael Meacher, British MP, environment minister from May 1997 to June 2003 : "This war on terrorism is bogus "

- President Hosni Mubarak (Egypt, former pilot):
" ... those who did that should have flown in the area a long time, for example. The Pentagon is not very high, a pilot could come straight to the Pentagon like this to hit, he should have flown a lot in this area to know the obstacles which could meet him when he is flying very low with a big commerical plane to hit the Pentagon in a special place.
Somebody has studied this very well, someone has flown in this area very much."
- President Hosni Mubarak in Al-Ahram
"I find it hard to believe that people who were learning to fly in Florida could, within a year and a half, fly large commercial airlines and hit with accuracy the towers of the World Trade Center which would appear, to the pilot from the air, the size of a pencil. Only a professional pilot could carry out this mission, not someone who learned to fly for 18 months in Florida. For your information, a licence to fly commercial planes has many conditions, in terms of study and training. Many hours of flying are needed to qualify as a co-pilot, let alone a pilot, of such planes."

- Former German Defense Minister Confirms CIA Involvement in 9/11: Alex Jones Interviews Andreas Von Buelow


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additionally to Rep. McKinney, Rep. Weldon (search the web)
see: Senator Mark Daytons questions concerning 9/11:
"Almost 2 ½ hours after the first hijacking began, our country was still undefended. Had there been more planes hijacked that morning, as the terrorists once intended, they could have reached their targets and killed more innocent Americans."
Senator Dayton on Video - Senator Max Cleland left the 9/11 Commission. Senator Paul Wellstone died in a plane crash.

Former Head Of Star Wars Program Says Cheney Main 9/11 Suspect
Official version of events a conspiracy theory, says drills were cover for attacks
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 08:12 AM
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2. There are a lot
Don't forget Iranians president, in a letter to G.W.Bush (although I don't know on which side he really is)
September Eleven was a horrendous incident. The killing of innocents is deplorable and appalling in any part of the world. Our government immediately declared its disgust with the perpetrators and offered its condolences to the bereaved and expressed its sympathies.
All governments have a duty to protect the lives, property and good standing of their citizens. Reportedly your government employs extensive security, protection and intelligence systems – and even hunts its opponents abroad. September eleven was not a simple operation. Could it be planned and executed without coordination with intelligence and security services – or their extensive infiltration? Of course this is just an educated guess. Why have the various aspects of the attacks been kept secret? Why are we not told who botched their responsibilities? And, why aren’t those responsible and the guilty parties identified and put on trial?




Eckehardt Werthebach, former president of Germany's domestic intelligence service, Verfassungsschutz, told AFP that "the deathly precision" and "the magnitude of planning" behind the attacks of September 11 would have needed "years of planning."

Such a sophisticated operation, Werthebach said, would require the "fixed frame" of a state intelligence organization, something not found in a "loose group" of terrorists like the one allegedly led by Mohammed Atta while he studied in Hamburg.

Many people would have been involved in the planning of such an operation and Werthebach pointed to the absence of leaks as further indication that the attacks were "state organized actions."



Horst Ehmke, who coordinated the German secret services directly under German prime minister Willi Brandt in the 70s, predicted a similar terrorist attack in his novel, Torches of Heaven, published last year, in which Turkish terrorists crash hijacked planes into Berlin.

Although Ehmke had long expected "fundamentalist attacks," when he saw the televised images from September 11, he said it looked like a "Hollywood production."

"Terrorists could not have carried out such an operation with 4 hijacked planes without the support of a secret service," Ehmke said, although he did not want to point to any particular agency.



http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/911deception.pdf
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 10:12 AM
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3. Links to more...
Officials doubting or openly rejecting the official story, scroll past Hellyer for a further list with links:

http://improbablecollapse.com/screens2/background1_hellyer.html

Long before "Scholars" there was the 911 Truth Statement:

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041026093059633

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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 11:47 AM
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4. Yes there are more, the number is increasing
and I love to take it onto my file /site.

But I must say I have a problem to insert Mr. Ahmadinejad ( I will think about it) and the mission of the /rumsfeld.html is NOT to introduce in all the problems, contradictions and so on. I only want to adress how THIS leader defended his country.

In my view it is one of the smoking guns. It is clear, based on undeniable facts and directly pointing back to the culprits.
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:33 PM
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6. There is more increasing. Rapidly. 14,7 million
Now the position of my nice website is

#2 of 14,7 hits. See:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rumsfeld+9%2F11

Seems as if five years after some people are interested what Rumsfeld, our hero, really did on 9/11.
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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:31 PM
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5. forgive my ignorance
ive been in the conspiracy movement for years and i only know OCT to stand for October. what does it stand for here ?
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:55 PM
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7. I am pleased to help you:
O fficial
C onspiracy
T heory

I do not like official or unofficial ones. And I prefer to fight the OCT.

Not by replacing it with others but with truth. Hope you join us.
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-03-06 03:49 PM
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8. Two million more
My website is '2 of 16,5 million hits for the two words:
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=rumsfeld+9%2F11&meta=

Seems as if there is an increasing number of perople who see both words in a connection and look for good answers.
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 04:31 PM
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9. Now it is 22 million hits for
rumsfeld and 9/11

and medienanalyse is the #2 of them:
http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=rumsfeld+9%2F11&meta=

The increase (double amount compared with one week before) is interesting.
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 04:38 PM
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10. Are you from Germany?
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:49 AM
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11. yes
and google "lost" some millions in the night.
Mathematics are always kind of mystery. Especially in IT business.
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FoxOnTheRun Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 03:50 AM
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12. What do you know about,


Wisneswski loosing his job after WDR airing the 911 documentary on TV and Spiegel writing a hit piece? Who put
pressure on them?

What do you know about Herrhausen, Barschel or Möllemann? I always wondered who did it.





Well, Google has been caught doctoring with the listings several times.
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 02:47 PM
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13. Not too much but ...
I can help you in one case: Möllemann.

My file is the most complete as much as I know:

httP//:www.medienanalyse-international.de/fallschirmtod.html
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