LOL. (so called)Pilots for truth can't handle the truth!

[Kingshakabobo]

I have posted several links on the Youtube thread questioning the, so called, pilot's assertion that the altimeter reading was too high to hit the light-poles during the pentagon strike.

Poof! They disappear. Mine weren't the only posts to disappear. Another poster posted links and they too went down the hole. At fist, I thought maybe I made a mistake and didn't post correctly so I tried again. Same result - gone in one hour. Then again - POOF - gone. I noticed the other guy's posts disappeared - so did his question about where his posts went. Funny thing - I went on "the pilots for truth" website and, from what I can tell, they censor pilots that don't agree with them - For instance - When confronted by a poster named "driver" about the admin's calculation errors the admin threatened to ban him. (I have seen Driver on other non-controversial websites and know him to be credible - a big name commercial carrier pilot)

VERY INTERESTING

I'm curious how that is done. My guess is the CTer and his minions flag it as spam??? That's my only guess......Oh no! now I'M a conspiracy theorist!

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The bottom line is, the poster is wrong to say the airplane was absolutely positively too high when it struck. It's quite possible the altimeter was affected by Hysteresis Error due to rapid descent - how much would Hysteresis Error affect the altimeter in this particular situation? I'm not sure but we know there is an effect - especially during a rapid descent. BTW, this is why the big airlines rely on their radio/radar altimeters when landing because they are much more accurate than the pressure altimeter. The info I've obtained say the jetliner's pressure altimeters are more accurate than general aviation but I am reading there is STILL a lag/error.

Here is some of what I posted:


http://www.tpub.com/content/aviation/14030/css/14030_45.htm

Hysteresis Error.— Hysteresis error is a lag in altitude indication due to the elastic properties of the material within the altimeter. This occurs after an aircraft has maintained a constant altitude for an extended period of time and then makes a large, rapid altitude change. After a rapid descent, altimeter readings are higher than actual. This error is negligible during climbs and descent at a slow rate or after maintaining a new altitude for a short period of time.


HYSTERESIS:

Hysteresis results from the imperfect elasticity of aneroid capsules and springs which tend to retain a given shape even though the external forces have changed. It is present during rapid altitude changes and for a short duration thereafter. Hysteresis affects pressure altimeters.

REVERSAL ERROR:

Reversal error results from induced false static pressure sensations caused by large or abrupt pitch changes which give a momentary indication in the opposite direction. It affects pressure altimeters and vertical-speed indicators.




Edit to add:

This is what the poster initially says:

>>>>>Baro altimeters don't "lag". They use that rule of thumb as a "merging lane". Just like you merge onto a highway, you have to merge into your altitude. You cant just stop automatically at your altitude. Please read the Flight Information Handbook by the FAA. You're confusing merging with lagging.<<<<<

Then, caught in an inaccuracy. With links:

>>>This lag is only apparent in abrupt changes from level attitudes. As flight instructors point out to their students. Lag is negligible once established in a descent as AA77 was.<<<



youtube link:

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=DzR-q0ijbV0&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DDzR-q0ijbV0

[Sinti]

1. You're starting to sound paranoid there, King Shaka - careful ;) n/t

[mhatrw]

2. I understand. Conspiracy theorists are out to get me as well. n/t

[FoxOnTheRun]

3. Ì heard the guy giving an interview on the Jack Blood show

he didn't want to give his name, sounded somewhat suspicious.

Maybe the group was setup purposely to drive people into the boring question what hit the pentagon.

I've also heard an interview by Sam Danner I believe who says something smaller hit the pentagon and he says the light poles popped out by themselves after the plane went past(explosives) He could be disinfo, he also was at Eric Hufschmidt's show, who is definitely disinfo


I don't know what to believe, I think we would have heard more eyewitnesses if there was something fishy at the pentagon.

[Kingshakabobo]

4. Don't these theories get crazier by the minute?

Now the LIGHT-POLES had explosives planted in them? sheesh!

He does sound suspicious. Also, his original Youtube profile had his age at 26yrs old.....with 20 years flight experience. Perhaps he was one of them there whatcha call "child prodigies."

[Kingshakabobo]

5. Nowwwww I get it! You can remove comments from your own video!

The, so called, "pilot for truth" doesn't want anyone to see actual facts which contradict his inaccurate conclusion that the aircraft was too high.

Once again:

Hysteresis Error.— Hysteresis error is a lag in altitude indication due to the elastic properties of the material within the altimeter. This occurs after an aircraft has maintained a constant altitude for an extended period of time and then makes a large, rapid altitude change. After a rapid descent, altimeter readings are higher than actual. This error is negligible during climbs and descent at a slow rate or after maintaining a new altitude for a short period of time.

What is so controversial that he doesn't want this posted? Oh, I see. It directly contradicts his assertion that "baro altimeters don't lag."....WRONG


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