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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:20 AM
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VIDEO of the 09/11 Commission Hearing which was SUPPRESSED
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:29 AM
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1. This was a great video
It does address the problems we are facing when our government will not even talk about the actual problems that exist in the Middle East and their cause....
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:35 AM
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2. thank you!
that was excellent.
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RangerSmith Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:45 AM
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3. suppressed?
What exactly was suppressed?

Download the 911 report and type "Israel" into the search box.

It clearly addresses many thoughts akin to Fitzgerald's opinion in that piece of recorded testimony.

What exactly was suppressed there?

The only thing not in the recorded 911 testimony and the 911 report on that video are the things that weren't delivered at the 911 hearings or in front of the committee.

What exactly was suppressed?

Are you saying reporters questions at a separate press conference should be considered testimony and be in the 911 report?

WTF?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:33 AM
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5. The testimony of the CIA agent as to why
they believe these problems are occurring in the ME was omitted... That was in front of the committee..
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RangerSmith Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:45 AM
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7. of the who?
You mean FBI?

And you are claiming this was under oath testimony that was ommited?

Can you document that?
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:52 AM
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8. Watch the Video and it was CIA
not FBI.... They said this piece was ommitted....
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:10 AM
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10. Mr. James N. Fitzgerald, Special Agent, FBI
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 11:11 AM by Make7
Edited to change border color

Mr. James N. Fitzgerald
Special Agent, Federal Bureau of Investigation

http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing12.htm

- Make7
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:23 AM
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12. Yep, that is my mistake nt
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RangerSmith Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:17 PM
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14. I don't care who "THEY" is
make up your own mind about what you believe in and do your own research before latching hold of something as clearly agenda driven and stupidly easy to debunk as this thing was.

I'm telling you, your friends might be critical thinkers and be checking out all the stuff you are dumping on them. When it's stuff like this, well, you could be considered the wacko in the room! ;-)
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:22 PM
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15. I know I can ask as many questions as I want
And you cannot suppress my questions with your rude words... Keep on attacking, it only shows what kind of a person you are..

Better a wacko than a rude ass....
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:06 AM
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9. I'm not sure if suppressed would be an accurate description.
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 11:35 AM by Make7
Edited for spelling

Video of the testimony and a transcript are available on the 911 Commission's website. To view the video go to the following page:

http://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing12/index.htm

Select Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - Panel 2, the question partially shown in the youtube clip in the OP starts at around 2:07:21. (At least for the low-res Windows Media version.)

If we go to the transcript, we can read the full question and answer:

MR. HAMILTON: Thank you very much for your testimony. I'm interested in the question of motivation of these hijackers, and my question is really directed to the agents. You've looked and examined the lives of these people as closely as anybody. It's an extraordinary thing to be able to motivate someone to kill themselves. I am aware of the Usama Bin Ladin's statements about the religious and the political and the economic reasons, and I really don't want to get into that. But what have you found out about why these men did what they did? What motivated them to do it?

MR. FITZGERALD: I believe they feel a sense of outrage against the United States. They identify with the Palestinian problem, they identify with people who oppose repressive regimes, and I believe they tend to focus their anger on the United States as to what would motivate a young man to sacrifice his rights, to, really, go to that extraordinary next step to do that. Much of it, I believe, originates in rage, and I think when you look at the 19 hijackers and see where they came from, you can begin to see the seeds of that -- that disenfranchisement and anger.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/archive/hearing12/9-11Commission_Hearing_2004-06-16.htm

Now let's look at a couple of excerpts from the report itself:

BIN LADIN'S APPEAL IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD

It is the story of eccentric and violent ideas sprouting in the fertile ground of political and social turmoil. It is the story of an organization poised to seize its historical moment. How did Bin Ladin-with his call for the indiscriminate killing of Americans-win thousands of followers and some degree of approval from millions more?

The history, culture, and body of beliefs from which Bin Ladin has shaped and spread his message are largely unknown to many Americans. Seizing on symbols of Islam's past greatness, he promises to restore pride to people who consider themselves the victims of successive foreign masters. He uses cultural and religious allusions to the holy Qur'an and some of its interpreters. He appeals to people disoriented by cyclonic change as they confront modernity and globalization. His rhetoric selectively draws from multiple sources-Islam, history, and the region's political and economic malaise. He also stresses grievances against the United States widely shared in the Muslim world. He inveighed against the presence of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam's holiest sites. He spoke of the suffering of the Iraqi people as a result of sanctions imposed after the Gulf War, and he protested U.S. support of Israel.

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch2.htm

Many Americans have wondered, "Why do 'they' hate us?" Some also ask, "What can we do to stop these attacks?"

Bin Ladin and al Qaeda have given answers to both these questions. To the first, they say that America had attacked Islam; America is responsible for all conflicts involving Muslims. Thus Americans are blamed when Israelis fight with Palestinians, when Russians fight with Chechens, when Indians fight with Kashmiri Muslims, and when the Philippine government fights ethnic Muslims in its southern islands. America is also held responsible for the governments of Muslim countries, derided by al Qaeda as "your agents." Bin Ladin has stated flatly, "Our fight against these governments is not separate from our fight against you." These charges found a ready audience among millions of Arabs and Muslims angry at the United States because of issues ranging from Iraq to Palestine to America's support for their countries' repressive rulers.

Bin Ladin's grievance with the United States may have started in reaction to specific U.S. policies but it quickly became far deeper. To the second question, what America could do, al Qaeda's answer was that America should abandon the Middle East, convert to Islam, and end the immorality and godlessness of its society and culture: "It is saddening to tell you that you are the worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind." If the United States did not comply, it would be at war with the Islamic nation, a nation that al Qaeda's leaders said "desires death more than you desire life."

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch2.htm

I'm not quite sure what exactly you feel has been "suppressed".

- Make7
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:19 AM
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11. I did not use the word suppressed
I would use omitted as part of the record... Putting it on their website is not the same thing....
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:33 AM
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13. Okay, then what do you feel was omitted?
The last two excerpts from my previous post were direct quotes from Chapter 2 of the 9/11 Commission Report.

- Make7
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:23 PM
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16. From the video record
of the public hearings is what the video states....
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 08:45 AM
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4. I see that 911 is not relevant to GD on , uh, 9/11.
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 09:34 AM
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6. Don't not ask any questions
about anything.... It's a shame really....
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