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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 12:23 AM
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Flight 175 ATC Interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXEdrpzU_Qg

I hope no one already posted this, I couldn't find it. It's pretty quick, anyway the atc who tracked 175 described a sharp turn followed by a climb of 3,000 feet in one minute, and later, 175 began at 8:55 to descend at around 10,000 feet per minute (absolutely unheard of in a commercial jet) He says how unbelievable it is to think that the passengers were withstanding these kind of forces on what he calls a "power dive" and yet supposedly passenger Brian Sweeney leaves a message at 8:59 to his wife, Julie, and was talking to his dad. I think that phone message could have happened, I don't have a time on the calls to his dad, below. I don't think he could have been leaving a message under the conditions described by the flight controller.

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 12:33 AM
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1. Brian Sweeney's background and his phone calls.
Edited on Sun Sep-24-06 12:36 AM by mirandapriestly
Brian Sweeney allegedly made these phone calls 9-11 on flight 175:

Brian Sweeney, a passenger on Flight 175, calls his wife, but can only leave a message. “We’ve been hijacked, and it doesn’t look too good.” Then he calls his mother and tells her what is happening on board. She recalls him saying, “They might come back here. I might have to go. We are going to try to do something about this.” She also recalls him identifying the hijackers as Middle Eastern. Then he tells his mother he loves her and hangs up the phone. The mother turns on the television and soon sees Flight 175 crash into the WTC. The 9/11 Commission later concludes that the Flight 175 passengers planned to storm the cockpit but did not have time before the plane crashed.
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=brian_sweeney
and
"Flight 175 passenger Brian Sweeney calls his parents a second time, and says to his father, “It’s getting bad, Dad—A stewardess was stabbed—They seem to have knives and Mace—They said they have a bomb—It’s getting very bad on the plane—Passengers are throwing up and getting sick—The plane is making jerky movements—I don’t think the pilot is flying the plane—I think we are going down—I think they intend to go to Chicago or someplace and fly into a building—don’t worry, Dad—If it happens, it’ll be very fast—My God, my God.”

At 8:58 passenger Brian Sweeney is said to have left a message for his wife "We've been hijacked, and it doesn't look too good" and talked to his mother. "

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/attack/flight175.html

His background:

"Mr. Sweeney was a lieutenant in the Navy and a Desert Storm veteran, protecting the no-fly zones. He was a radar intercepting officer aboard F-14 Tomcat fighter planes in the VF-211 "Bounty Hunters" squadron, serving on the USS Nimitz and USS Ranger aircraft carriers. He graduated at the head of his class at the Naval Officers Training School in Pensacola, Fla.
He was a staff instructor at the Navy's prestigious Fighter Weapons School in Miramar, Calif., from 1995 to 1996, and a staff member for the Tomcat Strike Fighter Weapons School in 1993.
He was alsosquadron avionics/weapons division officer from 1991 to 1993 and squadron weapons training/tactics development officer from 1993 to 1995.
He worked for a variety of private-sector aeronautical companies in recent years, including Lockheed Martin Corp., Spectratek Corp. and Horizons Technology(now part of Titan (of prison fame) Since March, he was a systems consultant for the Department of Defense and aeronautics industry at Brandes Associates in Los Angeles (which is a defense contractor working with UAV's, among other things."
http://www.cgim.org/sweeneyclan/misc/26.html

What he was supposedly saying seems far too passive and ordinary for his background, he sounds like the creme de la creme of the military. His wife says he planned to storm the cockpit, but he seems more a man of action, not words, which is what we see here. These sounds like scripted words to tell people what the story is supposed to be.
There sure are a hell of a lot of defense department related people who happened to be on these flights.

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seatnineb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:13 AM
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2. Excellent work as usual Miranda n/t
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:32 AM
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4. thanks, wow, I was waiting for the attacks.
What a pleasant surprise :)
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 03:30 AM
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3. I meant to say I don't think the phone message could have happened.eom
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 04:30 PM
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5. miranda I applaud your diligence, listening to the ATC describe
the power dive an unheard of maneuver sent chills through me. Imagine the terror those poor lost souls must have felt. Why was he the only person who was able to get a call through. Even if the flight was light 59 people I'm sure others had a cell phone.

And he mentions Chicago, in the Aug.6 PDB on page 2 before it was sanitized it said this," weeks many many dead,very very big uproar, possibly using hijacked commercial jets as suicide weapons to be crashed into skyscrapers in New York City, Chicago and Washington DC." that paragraph was followed by a closing paragraph on page 2 before it was cleaned up. can't have damaging information like that released to the public.

My guess is on April 12, 2004 when it was officially released some numnuts idiot showed it to the camera and soon realized can't have those last 2 paragraphs in there that info was too current.

good video though miranda.. you keep this 911 truth movement alive.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 03:49 AM
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9. There were a couple other calls
But they were before the "power dive". I noted Sweeney's call, because I think it would be impossible for someone to have made a phone call during the circumstances described by the atc.
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 01:48 PM
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11. miranda,,, just how many phone calls were made in all 4 flights?
olsen, ong/ing?,todd beamer, sweeney,anyone else? If not then something is wrong here. I would think that 300 or more people on 4 flights we'd have a higher number of calls. They the BFEE can't hide this forever.



Thanks my friend ... your my stability in this dungeon and Paul too !!
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:54 AM
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16. well, the phone calls are ridiculous for a lot of reasons, I just
wanted to show one.
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Nozebro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 02:34 PM
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17. It's truly absurd to think radical Muslim suiciders/murderers would

encourage or allow phone calls. The alleged terrorists were supposedly on a mission that was Islam-related, and encouraging people to call their loved ones in the circumstance of being on a plane that was about to be intentionally crashed is something that only a very sick, NON-religious believing murderer would have done, not someone(s) on a mission for "Allah".

How much more absurdity do we have to expose before people realize that so-called OCT'ers profess belief in what can only be properly labled as the looniest of looneytunes.
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paulthompson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 07:54 PM
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6. Does anyone know what this is from?
I'm like to get a transcript and add this kind of info to my timeline. And DemInDistress, what's your basis for claiming to know about extra material in the Bush PDB?
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 09:05 PM
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7. I saw it Paul on TV April 12 2004 when it first aired publicly. It
was 2 pages, the first had historical information while the second page had "4 paragraphs" the third being this: "weeks, many many dead, very very big uproar, possibly using hijacked commercial jets as suicide weapons to be crashed into skyscrapers in New York City, Chicago and Washington DC." that was followed by a closing paragraph which I didn't have time to memorize.

Since Ben-Vineste challenged Condi to make it public I feel the idiot who took that PDB to the camera failed to get clearance regarding the last 2 paragraphs on page 2. I didn't have the VCR running and I felt I'd see it again later on other cable news channels. But when it did reappear on CNN or Faux it was sanitized.

Paul, I don't make shit up. That description was word for word. We can all see the damage the PDB would have caused if allowed to remain intact, the election was 6 months away as well as a clear signal that Osama was planning to use hijacked commercial jets as suicide weapons.


Thanks Paul for the interest. I had asked here at DU last year if any others might have caught that PDB when it was first released but to no avail.

One more thing, if I did have that recorded I'd be scared shit today. I know what I read ...
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 12:42 AM
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8. ABC (Made it through the censors) and the Learning Channel
Here is a longer version, which also shows the network, and gives a longer interview,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMZcWY1kf-c
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 01:03 PM
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10. why is everyone so sure passengers were on THAT plane?
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-25-06 09:19 PM
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12. Well, the DNA at the WTC, BUT that could have got there
by other means. ( I think they said they found 11 of the flight 175 people's DNA.)For example,a year later they found body parts on the roof of the Deutsche Bank building, I mean - please...but, I find it very unlikely that all these defense contractor bigwigs and military people and aviation people just happened to be on these planes. I mean, where are the shoe salesmen and the big fat insurance clerks that I always get stuck sitting next to? plus, the passengers on all the flights add up to enough people for just one , I think, 747. My personal belief is that there were not people on the planes or whatever hit the buildings, but we only have what we have to work with and so I thought I would show how just one person is very unlikely to have made that call. and for that matter to be on that plane, when you take into account the backgrounds of these people. I also think the "power dive" does not fit with a lot of the footage we have seen.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 11:28 AM
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15. they'd tell one anything!
One would have to ask the airlines, baggage handlers, clerks but even then they are sworn to secrecy
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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 01:40 AM
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13. Nosedive and DNA
Remember how three alleged hijackers were positively identified but their names never revealed. Here is what the guy who was in charge said:

In "Who They Were," his new inside account of the identification effort, Shaler writes that he believes the terrorists identified were in the back of the planes - and not the monsters who plowed the jets into the towers.

"I still doubt the pilots have anything remaining to collect or analyze," he writes. "Likely, they were vaporized along with many of the innocent victims."

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/354992p-302463c.html

We don't have any indication which plane they were on.

But knowning that it can hardly be AA 11 cause Ong and Sweeney would certainly have noticed any alleged hijacker coming to the back of the plane only UA 175 remains.
But here we have phone calls till 9:00 and no mentioning of any alleged hijackers coming back. But how could the alleged hijackers have made it to the back of the plane in the last three minutes given the extreme nosedive?
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medienanalyse Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-26-06 08:12 AM
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14. The Story of barriglio and the Videos ar Bullshit
They try to change the story again:

years ago it was clear that the UAL175 was hijacked 6 minutes before at 8:41.
After Saracioni spotted the AAL11 and after he got the order to change his course.

Now this ATC tries to tell us that 2 minutes after AAL11 vanished into the WTC, half an hour after the hijacking of AAL11, after alerting NEADS and so on he did not care about changing the transponder and no answer in radioing by UAL175 ? He first noted the sharp left turn and then counted with the others the change og height, and then IMMEDIATELY he called the supervisor ?

IF ( IF! ) he is not a Hollywood-existence but the real ATC in charge in the KNBC in Nashua, the ARTCC in charge, if he really was, then he is the one responsible ATC who handled AAL11 as well and the Egyption Airline flught two years before.

I cannot believe a cold blodded mirderer opnes his face so bluntly to the public after being anonymous for five years.

Dave should be asked why his engagements in Hollywood did not make enough money until now.

Those phonecall-stories in its absurdities should be ignored. Good to know that not only Raytheon employeees were spread over all flights but evaluation crews for UAV as well. Rememeber that the offices of Boeing respectively of raytheon were hit in the WTCs.
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