Conspiracy Fact: The Bush Administration Planned 9/11

[Freedom_from_Chains]

Found this presentation on YouTube by a Mike Ruppert, whom I have never heard of, but thought some might find interesting. The thing I found interesting about it is he answered a question I have had since 9/11 which I have never seen mentioned anywhere else. On that morning I had gotten up for work, around 4:30 EST and began checking all the news site like I always do in the morning. I think they have a name now for those of us who do such, we're called the Pajamahadein.

I happened to look at the Drudge Report and there was a story on there that sometime during the early morning hours a couple of Russian nuclear bombers had come over the ice cap and had gotten within striking distance of Washington D.C. I found it strange because just a couple of weeks before there had been a story about the Russians probing our air defenses on the west coast with nuclear attack planes. Of course in both instances we scrambled fighters to respond.

Now back in the cold war era this would have been no big deal as we regularly played cat and mouse games with the Russians in the air and on and under the sea, but that had pretty much subsided during the 90's and had become pretty rare so it got my attention in the months before 9/11 that this activity had picked up. To a certain degree I chalked it up to the fact that we now had a Republican administration, which tends to be more war orientated, so really no big shock. But at the same time I have never seen anything in print that talked about the Russian nuclear bombers incident that happened on that morning until now, and that has always bothered me.

So, I thought I would post this link for comment and inquire as to if other have heard of Mr. Ruppert and what you might know about this incident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDY6LIKZmIA&mode=related&search=

[SpiralHawk]

1. Verrrrry in-ter-esting

Commander AWOL and Pooty Poot in cahoots?

Could be...hmmmm...let me look DEEP into your eyes...and check out your SOUL*

* An occult Skull & Boner ritual

[BootinUp]

2. Did someone say MIHOP?

I thought so. :eyes:

[RufusEarl]

3. Ruppert was one of the first to take on the official 9-11 story,

and imho has done a good job debunking the official line. His book Crossing the Rubicon, was a chilling time line to the events of that day.

I understand he now lives abroad, but still pursues the 9-11 story and cover ups that ensued. If you're interested in researching 9-11, then you couldn't find a better place to start imho he's credible.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

4. Thanks, most of the 9/11 theorist I have found on this subject

impress me as being a little on the flaky side, but this guy seems to know what he's talking about.

[donsu]

5. agree on Ruppert - I've been reading him for a number of yrs.

nt

[murray hill farm]

6. Ruppert lives now in Venezuela!

Check out FTW.com, I think...or Search for From the wilderness, for updates from him on that site.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

7. Which doesn't surprise me especially in light of

what happened to Gary Webb when he started exposing the drug connection between the CIA and South America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb

They say he died from two (2) self-inflicted gunshot wounds to the head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7NB1I5BJAc&NR

[DemInDistress]

15. and Hunter Thompson, he was suicided,, HT was deep into

uncovering some truth behind 911, then he died. Also, Daniel Pearl, he was following the money, sadly he
was killed.

[SpiralHawk]

8. Venezuela ? The BushCo hound dogs must have been on his tail

republicons hate the truth, as they have demonstrated repeatedly.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

9. It is telling that Venezuela is one place he feels safe to be in. n/t

[paulk]

10. how credible is Mike Ruppert?

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?bid=3&pid=66

[mirandapriestly]

12. What, on that video, did he say that was not fact?

I think it was all verifiable fact. HIS credibility is the last thing we have to worry about.

[democraticinsurgent]

21. more credible than David Corn imho n/t

[whistle]

11. About a month ago Mike Ruppert had his whole two hour presentation

...on YouTube which I watched. He builds his case on a mountain of facts and puts it all together very logically and convincingly. These summary clips are great for getting to wider audiences.

[seatnineb]

13. 2 of Bin Laden's brothers living next door to CIA.if I heard it right!?

[medienanalyse]

14. Forget about the wargames

When Ruppert 2003 was in Berlin he was sharp to the point:

there are according to NATO standards fighter jets assigned to the air policing SOP. Langley, OTIS, Andrews are in question. They did not scramble.
That is all.

What all the other fighter jets do or do not is of no interest. If they play wargames, if they are reconstructed, filled with kerosine, ammunition whatever: it only absorbes public attention from: airpolicing.

[wildbilln864]

16. kick...

.

[mhatrw]

17. Interesting video, although Ruppert is not a personal favorite of mine.

[mirandapriestly]

18. What happened to Michael Ruppert?

I heard someone in the audience shout that out at that recent Berkley speaking event hosted by Ray McGovern I started thinking, "yeah, what did happen?" I mean, I know there was an incident involving a woman and some office intrigue, and questions about a possibly staged office break in, then he moved to Venezuela, but to be honest his version of events did not cast him in a very flattering light. Additionally Peak oil, one of the key points of his theorizing is being discredited as propaganda, at least by some. So has he been set up? or has he been in the CIA all along, which I've read some people say? The whole thing reads like a script.

[John Q. Citizen]

19. I happened upon a local Ashland, OR forum where local folks were

discussing Ruppert right after he left town. (americanbuddha had a link to it I think, they are from Ashland)

Her take(americanbuddha librarian) was that Rupert started out on peak oil then switched to 9/11 because it had promise. She's not too enamored with the guy. He's ex-LAPD intel and she's suspicious about that. It's pretty difficult to determine whether Ruppert is a disinfo plant, but the premise of peak oil, (that we are there, half the oil has run out) is stupid, because no one knows how much oil in total there is, so by definition, no one knows when we will reach the half way point.

By the way, I don't always agree with what the online librarian says about whatever, but I think she's coming from her heart. I don't think she's right about everything she posts, but I think she's honest.

And I love that she puts up this whole wide array of books, articles, music, screenplays and makes it free to the online public. Her husband seems like one of the good guys too.

[petgoat]

22. Last I've heard, Ruppert's in Canada, getting treatment for

mysterious ailments.

http://mikeruppert.blogspot.com/

[Beam Me Up]

23. Libraian doesn't have Ruppert's story right at all.

I met Ruppert in 1998 and became a memeber of a yahoo group he and a lot of other very interesting people were on: cia-drugs. That was Rupert's focus prior to 9/11: The CIA's involvement in illegal drug smuggling and its use as funding sources for covert operations. It was from participating in that forum that I'd come to suspect that, sooner or later, there was going to be a false-flag terrorist operation of significant proportions here in the US. Ruppert had alerted everyone on the list the Friday before 9/11 that something was about to happen -- only his POV was that it would be an economic meltdown due to a derivatives bubble. Of course one of the many side effects of 9/11 was to "shut down" Wall Street which was subsequently rebooted AFTER the offices of the SEC were lost when WTC 7 came down.

In any case, Ruppert and all of us on that list knew that 9/11 was an ISJ from the first moments. We were all told to TIVO everything as the "official story" doesn't become solidified in the media for several hours after an event like this. Everyone on the street is still, more or less, reporting it as they see it.

Mike went from CIA drugs related issues to Peak Oil AFTER 9/11 (not the other way around). I think it was at the point he became involved in the Peak Oil scenario that FTW (From The Wilderness Publications) became compromised. Peak Oil was used as the EXPLANATION for why 9/11 had to occur; it was a matter of national security. Moreover, Ruppert continued to parrot the Official Story from the POV of hijackers, however much they may have been patsies or however much their operation may have been allowed to go forward. THIS WAS A FALL BACK POSITION and, IMO, one which was fostered by certain factions within the oligarchy. Ruppert has consistently stated that 9/11 should be approached NOT in terms of the physical evidence. He has also gone on to say that 9/11 is now behind us and we should be turning our awareness to what is coming, not to what has already befallen us. I don't agree with either of these positions and was very incensed at his unwillingness to even entertain the possibility that Peak Oil was another ruse.

Anyway, I think Ruppert was a good guy but he got in over his head. I could say I no longer trust him and that is true but the fact of the matter there are many more, and more well known and well respected people that I trust FAR LESS.

[mirandapriestly]

25. I'm glad I saw your post, how interesting!

I think there was an economic meltdown too. That was the first time since the depression that wall street had been shut down, also a lot of information was conveniently lost, both in the wtc and the Pentagon. It's an angle not pursued too often. That is one of the reasons, speaking of trust, I don't trust Morgan Reynolds. There is so much fertile economic ground and he is an economist who could be giving so much valuable insight on insider trading, Wall Street shutting down, the Pentagon money, etc... and what does he talk about? Space beam weapons! So, as of now I don't trust him at all.
I know what you mean about trust, I can't think of one "figure" that I trust around 9-11; maybe Peter Dale Scott and David Griffin, but neither goes as far as I would like, maybe that's a good thing...

[Beam Me Up]

26. I know Peter Dale Scott personally.

I believe he is utterly trustworthy in the sense that he is an honest man with an incredible mind and a good heart. Although I've shaken hands with Griffin, I don't have a clear sense of him. He has written that he is a globalist and has used the "R" word in relation to 9/11 truth and what needs to be done.

What do you think about CIA analyst Ray McGovern's moderating "9/11 and the American Empire, Intellectuals Speak Out" symposium?

http://www.911truth.org/store/DVDAmEmpire.htm

http://www.mininova.org/tor/487304

[wildbilln864]

27. great!

Ihope everyone watches it!

[mirandapriestly]

24. Thanks, people who actually come into contact with

or are in environments near people often get an accurate read on them, IMO. I read most of "Crossing the Rubicon" but one of the things that left an impression on me was his characterization of CIA or intelligence assets and the deceptive personalities they have and the sort of confusion mayhem surrounding theri lives. Lies and truth are always mixed together, and you never know if you can trust them (Like that Vreeland guy). That being said, that is my feeling somewhat about Ruppert. It seems to me that his "ending" left him quite discredited, I mean , you just don't let things like that happen to you (the woman who was coming on to everyone, the untrustworthy friend, then telling everyone about it in detail). If someone had an intelligence background ONCE , how do you know they don't have it now? Another person I don't trust completely is David Shaylor , the British former MI-5 guy. .

OTOH, maybe Ruppert was being victimized.

[rman]

28. Peak Oil is not stupid - we know with reasonable accuracy how much oil there is

Good indicators are the fact that peak discovery was in the 60's and 70's, and that since the 80's we're discovering less new oil than we are using.

Certainly we know how much oil there is that can be extracted at a reasonable cost - it is not coincidence that in the past one to two decades oil corporations are increasingly starting to access sources of oil that are significantly more expensive to extract and process: deep water fields, tar-sand, oil-shale.

Here's what Dick Cheney has to say about oil:

"From the standpoint of the oil industry obviously - and I'll talk a little later on about gas - for over a hundred years we as an industry have had to deal with the pesky problem that once you find oil and pump it out of the ground you've got to turn around and find more or go out of business. Producing oil is obviously a self-depleting activity. Every year you've got to find and develop reserves equal to your output just to stand still, just to stay even. This is as true for companies as well in the broader economic sense it is for the world. A new merged company like Exxon-Mobil will have to secure over a billion and a half barrels of new oil equivalent reserves every year just to replace existing production. It's like making one hundred per cent interest; discovering another major field of some five hundred million barrels equivalent every four months or finding two Hibernias a year. For the world as a whole, oil companies are expected to keep finding and developing enough oil to offset our seventy one million plus barrel a day of oil depletion, but also to meet new demand. By some estimates there will be an average of two per cent annual growth in global oil demand over the years ahead along with conservatively a three per cent natural decline in production from existing reserves. That means by 2010 we will need on the order of an additional fifty million barrels a day. So where is the oil going to come from? Governments and the national oil companies are obviously in control of about ninety per cent of the assets. Oil remains fundamentally a government business. While many regions of the world often greet oil opportunities, the Middle East with two thirds of the world's oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize ultimately lies, even though companies are anxious for greater access there, progress continues to be slow."

- Cheney At London Institute of Petroleum, 1999


Full text of Dick Cheney's speech at the Institute of Petroleum Autumn lunch, 1999
Published on 8 Jun 2004 by London Institute of Petroleum. Archived on 8 Jun 2004.
http://www.energybulletin.net/559.html

[wildbilln864]

20. kicking...

a must see...IMO.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

29. Yes Matt Drudge has a history of being so factual

:eyes: