It's Finally Starting To Happen. This Will Not Stay Hidden Like JFK Murder

[Solomon]

Yesterday I was drained after a hard week. So in my staff meeting with my employees on a late Friday afternoon, I decided not to follow an agenda, just let anybody talk about anything, you know, one of those bonding type free for alls.

Well it didn't take long for the subject matter of the banter to focus on 9-11. I kept quiet and was amazed when they started talking about 9-11 as an "inside job". They were agreeing about it openly as though everybody plainly knew it. They started laughing over the government's official story, how it didn't make any sense. Picking the whole thing apart. I was stunned.

For the first couple of years I thought 9-11 was one of those things that would be like JFK's murder.
But they won't be able to keep this thing hidden like they did before. These are not liberal, radical people I work with - by no means.

While I'm elated that the truth will eventually come out, I am also afraid that when the curtain is finally pulled, we will see the full brunt of the new system that we live under. They will no longer have to maintain the facade of democracy and we will see camps and crowds pushed around with pepper spray, tazers and rubber bullets like on that video about the Portland Demonstration.

The truth will out, but that doesn't mean they will be giving up any power.

[CJCRANE]

1. JFK was just one man

who was killed by just one man.

3,000 people died on 9/11. The scale is massive. It's not something you can sweep under the carpet forever (as the discovery of more body parts on the site of Ground Zero has shown).

[Demit]

5. Ah, a fan of the magic bullet theory!

I don't know how to post pics, but here's a nice diagram for you, at:

http://timmer.org/Distance%20Learning/History_17B/Lecture23/Lecture23_p06.htm

[EVDebs]

16. These autopsy photos and the Zapruder film stills...someone's lying

http://www.assassinationscience.com/johncostella/jfk/intro/

Go to 'The Wound Mistake'.

[Nozebro]

90. Faking & manufacturing evidence happened then as well as w/911.

The perps in the JFK assassination and coverup must have taught the perps responsible for 9/11 and the coverup of IT -- complete with a Patsy (LHO & OBL).

[sabbat hunter]

22. connelly and kennedy

the diagram in the website you gave is incorrect. Connelly sat in a jumpseat, which meant he was seated lower and slight off to the side of kennedy.

[Nozebro]

23. Typical OCT'er attempt to unfairly create doubt

Connally WAS seated lower, but that doesn't change the impossibility of the theory which you do not claim to folow, but almost certainly do. You DO support the so-called magic bullet theory, RIGHT?

[sabbat hunter]

60. actually i think

that there probably was more than just oswald involved, but i do not believe in a oliver stone type conspiracy.

btw here i another pic of the "magic bullet" not so "undamaged" as some would like you to believe

[Nozebro]

62. "more than Oswald was involved" --- but not an O.S. type conspiracy

Unless you're trying to appear to have it both ways, what in the world is that supposed to mean?

Insert something here ____ that SOUNDS like you agree that JFK was assassinated as the result of a conspiracy, but yet doesn't involve anyone other than another one or more "lone nuts".

[Jim Sagle]

25. Quite a magic bullet indeed!

It did a couple triple somersaults, a few backflips and a quadruple lutz before it came to rest.

[dflprincess]

49. It wasn't just the path the bullet took that made it magic

It was, after it alledgely went through the bodies of two adult males, breaking Connolly's ribs and smashing his wrist, it came to rest on a stretcher (supposedly after falling out of Connolly's thigh) at the hospital looking like this:

[vincent_vega_lives]

68. I know the "Pristine bullet" right?

Its a full metal jacketed military slug. Can be very resistant to deformation.

ITS FUCKING BENT.

And Here is a picture from the base...


You can clearly see the deformation and core disruption.

[Nozebro]

69. Well, glory be. THAT doesn't look anything like the business end of the

"magic" bullet. If it's supposed to be "very resistant to deformation", then what happened? Quite an amazing, and if I may say so, astonishing piece of evidence. Apparently, researchers have spent all these years never knowing what YOU just proved with this one simple photograph.

Impressive work, indeed.

[vincent_vega_lives]

74. If you have to ask that

"then what happened?" then you don't know much about bullets. And neither do these supposed "researchers". Plenty of experts have pointed out what I just did. Nothing astonishing about it, just some people refuse to hear it.

[Nozebro]

75. Tell you what. I know far more about the JFK case than you'll ever know

about it. Furthermore, as someone who personally got more people to become NRA Life Members (in a large state) than anyone else did that year, I know a thing or two about ballistics. Worse yet, for bush shills, I recognize attempts to fool people the way you did.

[vincent_vega_lives]

83. Oh really?

On average how long did LHO have to get off each of three shots?

At what range did the 1st and 2nd shots hit JFK?

What was the name of the man who opened and closed the umbrella and why did he do it?



And for someone who claims to "know a thing or two about ballistics", you post regarding FMJ bullets seemed a little off.

Not sure what bush has to do with the "magic bullet theory".

[Nozebro]

85. You're begging for your "SIGN".

1) 2.3 seconds (pls. respond to this, so you can't argue later on whenever you get your New SIGN)

2) Depends on where the shots came from

3) UM's true identity has never been proven. At least two different people have been identified as being UM. BTW- do YOU know who the radio man was that was with him and was seen talking on a hidden radio? The claim made by one person that said HE was UM was that he was chiding JFK for being like Chamberlin. His identity as UM and his story about chiding JFK are very much in doubt by many JFK researchers.

Here's an easy one for YOU:

* Who was the person (at Bethesda) that claimed they saw a large hole in JFK's occipital region and a small hole in his right temple? In other words, a small entry wound in the temple and a large exit wound in the back of JFK's head.

[vincent_vega_lives]

94. I gave up begging

1) WRONG. That is the common misconception. The total time for all three shots was anywere between 6 and 8.5 seconds depending on the source. Even if it was 6.9 seconds the first shot is 0, so he actually has 3.45 seconds for each the 2nd and 3rd shots.

2) The shots all came from the Texas Schoolbook Depository, 59-89 yards. Extremely close range for a bolt action rifle with a scope.

3) Louis S. Witt. He actually testified before the 1978 House Select Committee investigating the assassination. Was the African American sitting next to Mr Witt talking to himself "They done shot them folks" or on a "hidden radio" as claimed?


There are many imputs to the analysis of the autopsy, but I assume you are referring to Boswell?

[Nozebro]

96. Your responses are typical of someone who believes what they've been

told. I didn't think you knew anything about the case and you proved me right.

[vincent_vega_lives]

101. Must...be...told.

You must be very proud of yerself.

[Nozebro]

88. Parkland attending physicians testified that JFK's throat wound was an

entry wound, a punched-in wound that was far too small to have been an exit wound. Thus, there is eyewitness testimony of TWO entry wounds (right temple and throat) that could only have come from in front of the President.

You are way out of your league as far as the JFK case goes, but I'll indulge you for a bit more if you insist.

[vincent_vega_lives]

95. Perhaps but...

There is also PLENTY of eyewitness testimony of two entry wounds that could only have come from the rear.

The Parkland doctors were not performing an Autopsy.

[Nozebro]

97. See post #96.

nt

[Nozebro]

99. Tom Robinson, of Gawler's Funeral Home prepared JFK's body for

burial. He had to use a rubber dam to fill the large cavity in the occipital section (back) of JFK's head. The hole was too large to have been caused by an entry wound. It had to have and was, caused by a bullet shot from in front. Mr. Robinson also testified that he observed the entry hole in JFK's temple.

I'd suggest that you learn something about the case, but since you're a booshco apologist, naive DUers are probably better off not having to read any more disinformation than they're already subjected to every day by CT'ers who believe and promote the absurd notion that a caveman is responsible for 9/11.

[vincent_vega_lives]

102. "booshco apoligist"

Up there with "freeper" "racist" "facsist" "homophobe" as well reasoned counterarguments to someone who disagrees with you. The tactic of a moron.

Back of his head huh? Like here?:



The wound was in the SIDE of his head, caused by hydrostatic shock.

[vincent_vega_lives]

67. AAAGGGGHHH.

Here we go. Every time someone mentions JFK the "magic bullet" comes up.


What's wrong with this picture?


Here's the Limo Kennedy and Connally were riding in. Tell me how the fuck was Connally supposed to be at the same level as Kennedy while sitting in that jump seat?

[Nozebro]

70. The bullet changed directions. That's what's wrong with the picture.

Have you ever studied any of the available evidence? You should. Then, if you are a good-faith poster, you'll one day acknowledge what your peers have long known: JFK was murdered in a conspiracy.

[vincent_vega_lives]

73. I have

It didn't. Conspiracy or no conspiracy.

[Nozebro]

76. You're right. The bullet did NOT change directions. The SBT is a lie

that rightwing shills promote. And, if you've actually studied the case, it doesn't show in your posts thus far. You've only use photographs and cartoons to try and fool people, and that's wrong.

[vincent_vega_lives]

81. I dont have to try

people make fools of themselves pretty much on their own.

[Nozebro]

82. Especially stealth RWingers who know nothing about the JFK case.

nt

[vincent_vega_lives]

84. "stealth RWingers"

So your definition of a person who is capable of reasoned thought is a "stealth RWinger"?

That's assinine. Oh BTW I know enought to know about the JFK assaination.

[Nozebro]

86. You set up a great big ol STRAW man & shot that sucker down. Now,

go on uP there and respond to the JFK assassination question I asked you so I can officially award you with your New sign.

[johnnie]

72. There sure is something wrong

There is no way Connally was sitting that much lower than Kennedy.













But then in some pictures he looks lower

[Ravy]

6. People are still being killed at least in the name of 9/11. This

could reach the millions.

[EVDebs]

13. See Joan Mellen's book and realize otherwise; btw, 9-11 Press 4 Truth

http://www.joanmellen.net/

and

http://www.911pressfortruth.com/

should be enough to dispel any doubts: both resulted from conspiracies. That's more than one person involved...

[Sad4world]

2. You are correct

The same people are responsible for JFK and 911.

Actually the truth did come out about JFK but the general public cannot accept the horrible truth and nothing was done to the criminals.

This time(911) will be accepted but the forces that be are in so much control now that nothing CAN be done. They will not give up any power.

The immediate future for America will be tumultuous at best as the Money Makers are creating Chaos for even more control!

[Joe Chi Minh]

37. One man involved actually made a death-bed confession.

[rman]

3. Doesn't a majority think the JFK assassination

involved the government? (such was cited as reason for the production of a JFK conspiracy theory debunking docu in the 1990's).
Yet still the truth about the JFK assassination is hidden.
9/11 might well go down the same road.

[zeemike]

7. I think you are right

But too them it doesn't matter how many people believe it or not it only matters what the official story is. People die but phony history lives on forever.

[JohnyCanuck]

4. Former Marine Corps/CIA Officer endorses a "conspiracy theory."

Robert Steele, a former Marine Corps Officer and a former CIA case officer reviews Webster Tarpley's book "9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in the USA" and calls for a new investigation of 9/11.

Washington DC (PRWEB) October 18, 2006 -- Progressive Press announced that its "9/11 Synthetic Terror" has just been cited as the best non-fiction book ever by Amazon's top non-fiction book reviewer, intelligence professional Robert Steele, in a 5-star review at http://www.amazon.com/dp/0930852370 . (You have to page down a bit to find the review by Robert D. Steele /JC)

Progressive specializes in books that contend 9/11 was an "inside job." Publisher John Leonard says "it's a coup to have Steele with us on this. Here you have a level-headed, respected insider, lifelong Republican, veteran spy, and he's breaking the taboos. It's a great tribute and a vindication of the work we put into 9/11 Synthetic Terror."

Steele's statement that 9/11 was a "US-based conspiracy" may be a first coming from a senior US intelligence community figure. He came to this conclusion "with great sadness" after reading "9/11 Synthetic Terror: Made in USA," which he praises as "without question, the most important modern reference on state-sponsored terrorism."

A unique feature of "9/11 Synthetic Terror" is that Tarpley does not blame an entire government or agency. His "rogue network" model features small numbers of moles infesting critical nodes in key institutions like the CIA and mass media.

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/10/prweb451817.htm

Snip from the review of Tarpley's "9/11 Synthetic Terror" by Robert Steele:

It is with great sadness that I conclude that this book is the strongest of the 770+ books I have reviewed here at Amazon, almost all non-fiction. I am forced to conclude that 9/11 was at a minimum allowed to happen as a pretext for war (see my review of Jim Bamford's "Pretext for War"), and I am forced to conclude that there is sufficient evidence to indict (not necessarily convict) Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and others of a neo-conservative neo-Nazi coup d'etat and kick-off of the clash of civilizations (see my review of "Crossing the Rubicon" as well as "State of Denial"). Most fascinatingly, the author links Samuel Huntington, author of "Clash of Civilizations" with Leo Strauss, the connecting rod between Nazi fascists and the neo-cons.

This is, without question, the most important modern reference on state-sponsored terrorism, and also the reference that most pointedly suggests that select rogue elements within the US Government, most likely led by Dick Cheney with the assistance of George Tenet, Buzzy Kronguard, and others close to the Wall Street gangs, are the most guilty of state-sponsored terrorism.

SNIP

I sit here, a 54-year old, liberally educated, two graduate degrees, war college, a life overseas, 150 IQ or so, the number #1 Amazon reviewer for non-fiction, a former Marine Corps infantry officer, a former CIA clandestine case officer, founder of the Marine Corps Intelligence Center, and I have to tell anyone who cares to read this: I believe it. I believe it enough to want a full investigation that passes the smell test of the 9/11 families as well as objective outside observers. I believe it sufficient to indict Dick Cheney and other neo-cons. Sadly, the Executive is now in the service of corporations that benefit from high crimes and misdemeanors, rather than in the service of the American people who suffer great ill from these terrible mis-deeds.

My bottom line: justice has NOT been done, and this book, together with Crossing the Rubicon, is a major reason why I believe that eventually, Dick Cheney and others will be brought to justice. The people now have a digital memory and collective intelligence. Bin Laden Dead or Alive? Mission Accomplished? Civil liberties at home, democracy abroad? Just who are we kidding? More to the point, who are we betraying if not ourselves?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0930852370 (page down and look for the review by Robert D. Steele)

[acmejack]

8. Sold.

Sounds like another one I have to read, even though it is singing to the choir. We have been played forever by those elements among us who think the people are too dumb to run their own affairs. Kissinger and Company are still so deeply involved with everyhting going on, enriching themselves & laughing at our naivete. 3000 deaths are nothing to them, hell, some things are just too important for the people to decide for themselves...

[pretzel4gore]

9. 911 snillaheven!

the busheviks had a budget that might have gone into the $20 billion mark for all we know (after all, it's only OUR GODDAM MONEY!) to pull off a creepy scheme remarkable only because it transcended any morality, like a neighbor kidnapping and eating the local pets...it was an fx movie played out in real time, with all the props in place before it happened, and busheviks in control of the public perceptions nudgewink (hahaha). Mihop, you say! more like 'Ihthctpwbstdifop'- It Had TO Happen Cuz The Pig Was Bored So They Did it For Fun On Purpose (a lil unwieldy, i agree)....the real crux of the matter, and the way to turn the freepers themselves against these fukkin criminal sissies, is by pointing out that in 2000, when the criminals STOLE the election, they stole it from mom and pop, and all the old vets, and the cops and from rush limbah-humbug and foxnews/cnn etc! we think the rightists are cool with outright criminality in the highest offices of the land, but believe this: they only act that way, outta resentment and jealousy of those who enjoy life ie the liberal 'left'.....
still, even if the cud chewers are only opening one eye at a time, it's better then jammed shut!

[SpiralHawk]

14. Ihthctpwbstdifop - fer sure

eom

[BlueEyedSon]

12. Those last 2 paragraphs....WOW.

[Nozebro]

39. "Conspiracy" Does NOT apply to 9/11, because it was an INside job.

Even though the U.S. Gov't is directly responsible for 9/11, in a sense 9/11 WAS a conspiracy on the part of the U.S. Gov't, which conspired against the entire world, for its own corrupt reasons.

[mirandapriestly]

57. Oooh, I've got to read that.

Maybe that should be it's own thread.

[John Q. Citizen]

66. miranda, you can read it for free at the online library at

americanbuddha.com

Just use their search function to find it under Tarpley. They also have Tarpley's unofficiasl biography of GHW bush avaialable for free reading.

[mirandapriestly]

79. Thanks I will . I'm mad cuz he came to Seattle and I missed it last year.eom

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

10. Outstanding NYT/CBS Poll Results re 9/11

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=13469

Angus Reid Global Monitor : Polls & Research
Americans Question Bush on 9/11 Intelligence
October 14, 2006

- Many adults in the United States believe the current federal government has not been completely forthcoming on the issue of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, according to a poll by the New York Times and CBS News. 53 per cent of respondents think the Bush administration is hiding something, and 28 per cent believe it is lying.

[Cooley Hurd]

11. Hopefully, the first thing a Dem house will do is get to the bottom of...

...WHY Condi Rice did NOTHING in July 2001 when informed by Tenet and Cofer Black that an attack was imminent. Let's start there and work our way up...:thumbsup:

[EVDebs]

15. Dems in control of Congress is the only check on this bunch...

You can only begin to unravel this rat's nest with investigations and that will take a Dem controlled Congress. From there as a launching pad the real work, mentioned in Lester Brown's Plan B 2.0 can begin. The 'corporatocracy' doesn't seem to realize that a sustainable world is in their best interests, along with the Average Joe's.

[RedSock]

31. dems in control?

why would this help?

they have not been talking about 9/11 truth or the crazy official story/stories -- not in any meaningful way -- for the last 5 years.

indeed, they have happily gone along with the crime without so much as a whisper.

why would they suddenly change in 2007?

[dbt]

17. But it WILL be hidden here.

Off to the 9/11 Dungeon with this thread. In...3...2...1. Wouldn't want us looking kooky, you know.

:evilgrin:
dbt
Remember New Orleans

[seemslikeadream]

21. KOOKY!

:hi:

[mirandapriestly]

58. Really if we can't talk about 911, it's pointless talking

it's the key and the reason for everything that has happened (well and the 1st election fraud). If it was out in the open Bush would be done for, but it hurts the powers that be, and people who work for, oh I don't know, law firms, for example, have a vested interest in keeping it hidden because in all likelihood their firm represents someone involved...No intelligent person who reads believes the mainstream story, so the censorship is for another reason...

[Nozebro]

63. You CAN talk about it "amongst yourselves"; downstairs in the basement.

What you CAN'T talk about is why you can't talk about it uPstairs, in public. Why not? Sorry, can't talk about THAT either.

[mirandapriestly]

80. LOL. not very "democratic" is it?eom

[oblivious]

92. Gatekeepers. Everywhere. Only for things that are really important.

Criticise all you want. But a certain few topics must never reach the mainstream.

[latebloomer]

18. My neighbor

is a great guy, but he always struck me as a flag-flying, "support our troops" magnet ribbon kind of guy. The other night he was telling my husband about this amazing video a friend had loaned him, and how it was blowing his mind.

The name of the DVD? "Loose Change".

[Cass]

19. When you think about things that happened since 9-11, the official

government explanation of 9-11 just doesn't add up. There are some pretty obvious red flags that suggest we haven't been told the entire truth. The invasion of Iraq is an obvious one, and the UAE ports deal was another. Like you, I notice more and more people questioning the official story. I hope the truth will come out one day.

[hwmnbn]

24. Welcome to DU....

glad you're here! :hi:

[meganmonkey]

20. I am always amazed at how many people are

questioning the OCT (official conspiracy theory) of 9/11 and are open to other ideas and supporting investigations.

I participate in a daily protest in my town. When we started doing this back in April there was woman who joined us who passed out flyers about the 911 truth movement. At first I though that it would turn people off and that our general message (anti-war, holding bushco accountable for its war crimes and unconstitutionality) would be overshadowed by having a 'tinfoilhat' person with us - even though I fully believe that the official story isn't true, I didn't think the public was ready for that.

Well, imagine my surprise when probably half the people she gave flyers to said things like 'Oh yeah, the gov't had a hand in this' or 'yeah, they knew this attack was gonna happen but they let them get away with it". Even many of the people who had clearly never thought about questioning the official story looked open to learning and gladly took her flyers.

I don't know whether real investigations that could find the truth will ever happen, but I knw that a large number of Americans know that the OCT is absurd.

[HamdenRice]

26. Arrrgghhhh! Arrrgghhh! OFF to the dungeon with ye!!!

Great post, though. I find a lot of regular people around these parts also think it was obviously an inside job.

[Ezlivin]

27. My Mom thinks it was CD and an inside job

And she has two doctoral degrees, one in mechanical engineering and one in architecture. She was also the Vice President of the largest demolition company in the South.

Just kidding. But it seems like every time someone questions the OCT or brings up CD, supporters of the OCT quickly question the person's qualifications. My mother is just an ordinary, 70 year-old woman who saw the towers come down "just like they were demolished" and didn't believe that those "strong towers" could fall like that. No, she doesn't have the PhD or the title to get up and give a lecture, only a gut feeling that it was wrong.

We watched "9/11 Mysteries" last night and all the way through it she just kept nodding her head and agreeing with what she heard. (Plus several "OMG" moments when she saw/heard something new.)

Let's face it: We're the "official" investigators of 9/11 now. If we don't use our time to help solve this crime, the people who died in those towers, at the Pentagon and at Shanksville will truly have died in vain.

I will never forget what these criminals have done and no amount of smearing by OCTers will silence me.

[glitch]

28. Hear hear. nt

[BrklynLiberal]

29. Some day .... we WILL see this.

[FogerRox]

43. Those are great PIX, are you prescient?

[BrklynLiberal]

44. I sure hope so!!!

:thumbsup: :hi:

Let's concentrate on making it happen.

[Name removed]

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[roody]

30. What is OCT?

I can no longer overlook my ignorance.

[Nozebro]

32. Something that can be talked about openly, with sophisticated people.

nt

[rman]

33. Official Conspiracy Theory

(9/11 done by Osama bin Laden and 19 arabs)

[kster]

34. Don't forget that they ran the operation from a cave...... LOL....nt

[DrDebug]

40. A cave in Afghanistan as well. They made a WTC model out of pebbles n/t

[dailykoff]

35. Mass murder + bungled war + unbelievably unpopular admin =

big trouble for Team Torture. If they lose both houses -- which will clearly happen in terms of votes cast, though the actual outcome remains to be seen as usual -- they will unleash the full fascist "security" apparatus they've been putting together for the last five years.

What happens then is anybody's guess, but I'm praying it will be swift, thorough, and decisive.

[Imagevision]

36. Why do you think Bush and Cheney strongly opposed the 9-11 investigation!

and only caved because of the jersey girls!

[LiberalUprising]

38. JFK Assassination video, startling evidence you may have not seen

JFK Assassination video

JFK Assassination video, startling evidence you may have not seen

http://www.fugly.com/videos/5835/jfk-secret-service.html

[BrklynLiberal]

41. I thought I have seen it all. That makes my skin crawl.

[pauldp]

42. Holy Sh*t. That's a new to me.

:wow:

[ryanus]

46. More videos

JFK 2 - The Bush Connection
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6458775138947648722&q=jfk+2

Assassination of JFK, Jr. (Yes, of the son)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-342185930070503560&q=assassination+jfk+jr

Does anyone even believe that Kennedy was killed by a lone nut, Oswald?
I do find it odd how people accept the fact that there was more than one shooter, but then dismiss any other "conspiracy theories" about things like 9/11.

The world doesn't work like you think it does.

[sabbat hunter]

61. my theory

one shooter, but the dallas police department were paid off to help get oswald in the book depsotitory building. paid off by the same people who then shot oswald to keep him silent. the mob.

thats why oswald said he was a patsy. he expected the dallas police to help him get away, as they helped him get in the building. the same dallas police department told the mafia which exit oswald would be leaving from and allowed Ruby to get close to kill oswald.

[Nozebro]

64. 100% nonsense. Oswald WORKED in the TSBD building. NEXT.

nt

[Burried News]

47. Never forget. Never forgive. nt

[mirandapriestly]

55. The Secret Service once again. I wonder who gives them orders?

That was weird what Eisenhower said.

[dchill]

77. Absolutely...

the most important post in this thread.

Thank you.

[midnight]

45. Our country is run by the constution. This war is illigal and

all the bills that our being signed are illigal.

[truedelphi]

53. Did any of U catch the 9/11 vid that Alex jones

featured for like 24 hrs A month or two ago?

It was shot by a housewife from her apartment maybe 900 feet from the towers

You don't get to see the first tower that goes down happening - it's blocked by the other tower.

But when that tower goes down - you can see that there was one massive explosion that pancaked all the floors in terms of the outer layer but the inner core was left behind and then BOOM a second explosion takes the inner core out (Direct evidence to contradict those that say, well the steel beams at the core melted and then everything else went down.)

[Nozebro]

65. Your guess about what the OCT'ers HERE will have to say about that?

My guess: deny, deny, deny.

[toymachines]

48. Been dungeoned

I can't believe this shit still happens here.

[Nozebro]

51. What is it that you are referring to that "still happens here"? EOM

nt

[Beam Me Up]

54. This tread was moved from General Discussion to the 9/11 forum

This is DU administrative policy and it is the reason I no longer have a gold star.

[earth mom]

56. I hear ya. eom

[Beam Me Up]

78. L o L, thank you to whomever donated in my name

and gave me a gold star, after having posted the above. That was very generous of you. :tinfoilhat:

[Name removed]

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[Twist_U_Up]

103. Im just waking up to the fact.............

we are losing truthers left and right around here. Why ? :think:

[truedelphi]

52. MY HUSBAND CO-WROTE A BOOK ON 9/11

9/11 The Unknown Reality of the World at sethreturns.com (Authors Mark Frost and Cas Smith)

It is about the spiritual causes and meanings of the event.

We were questioning the offical story early on -- and then when See Span showed the hearings of the Commission - the jig was up

How could those people keep a straight face "jets were not scambled from Andrews AFB eleven miles from the White House because we didn't have their phone number so we used Langley 130 miles away but they couldn't come directlty as the protocol is to go over the Atlantic as we figured if we had an attack it would be Russia..."

[DrDebug]

71. They couldn't dial 4-11 on 9-11? n/t

[Nozebro]

87. Kick...for Vicente Vega EOM

nt

[philb]

89. The Gov't still is withholding most of the evidence of what really happened

Like the videos from the gas station and hotel near the Pentagon,
and plane parts, evidence of radiation at Pentagon, etc.
www.flcv.com/coverup.html

[petgoat]

91. Sign the petition for the release of suppressed evidence

http://www.st911.org/

[Nozebro]

93. Kicking it hard once again for vicente

nt

[AlwaysQuestion]

98. Once again, conspiracy is the NORM, not the exception

Wanna get some idea of what sorts of things go on at the top of the food chain, check this out. An interview with Madeline Brown, mistress (one of) to LBJ. Is she telling the truth? You be the judge.



http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=15167

[BrokenBeyondRepair]

100. it's 2 late..