Woody Box
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Tue Feb-13-07 03:46 PM
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First military live-fly exercise on 9/11 spotted! |
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Ever heard of Delta 89? No? I don't mean the ominous Delta 1989 at Cleveland Airport. Delta 89.
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JackRiddler
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Tue Feb-13-07 04:28 PM
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1. You know I don't dismiss your ideas as falsified... |
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Though we have at times been antagonistic.
(I'm assuming people who read the following have read your new article, or else it makes no sense...)
I still see you consistently leaving out two bits of evidence that seem to speak very clearly, strongly suggest a Flt. 93 shootdown, and at any rate are sufficient cause to invalidate the 9/11 Commission Report and "United 93":
1) Seismic event at 10:06, 3 mins after crash time (insisted on by the 9/11 Commission as the undeniable consensus of all other sources) at 10:03. In arguing for coincidence, it's like saying a dead guy found in a field was electrocuted at 10:03 although no one noticed lighting, and then his body was only coincidentally struck by lightning at 10:06. Preposterous. What are these 3 minutes about?
2) Scattering of debris including human body parts three miles away from the supposed main crash site. Impossible that an explosion or "the wind" at 10 mph blew dense solid matter that far. So mid-air break-up.
In prior versions of CAM, I haven't seen the reports you employ to establish Flight X as sufficient. They could easily be the products of confusion over times and flight numbers, in a day of high stress when many planes were being landed as once and there were no doubt many false alarms. It seems to me that your Flight X until now can only be reasonably thought to be Delta 1989, except that someone gets the time and the number of passengers wrong.
Furthermore, I am not impressed by Dewdney's experiment as it only falsifies the hypothesis that cell phones can connect on flight routes over Ontario, and does not apply to the NE United States. Further, it ignores that almost all of the reported calls are said to be by airfone, with the cell phone connections said to be very short. (Moussaoui evidence release -- How are you going to prove otherwise?! You would need subpoena power for the records in the first place...)
Further, the possibility of multiple decoy or wargame live-fly planes does not automatically require that Flt. 93 was swapped, or that the Shanksville crash site is a fake (for which the evidence to me is thin, consisting of readings of a few photos released by the govt., rather than a complete survey of the site). It fits in with blip-swapping or general confusion.
But this new matter of "Delta 89" (reported as in the air although no flight of that number would have taken off until 3 pm) vs. Delta 1989 (definitely landed in the morning in Cleveland) is very interesting. Scoggins says "89" on 9/11 and Scott also says "89" at his testimony two years later. This is something! It doesn't tell us that "Delta 89" is your previous "Flight X landing at Cleveland" but it sure suggests that "Delta 89" is an independent, as yet unexplained object associated with the wargames.
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Woody Box
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Wed Feb-14-07 03:13 PM
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2. No problem with antagonisms |
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as long as it is performed in a respectful manner.
I just have one plea: can you please read my articles thoroughly before commenting it?
I never claimed that Flight 93 landed in Cleveland and have debunked the ominous WCPO message myself in the second version.
So before making premature judgments again, please go to the original article and check the many, many sources. Maybe this is the reason why your judgment differs so heavily from ex-LA cop Ruppert's ("excellent research").
Thanks.
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Kesha
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Wed Feb-14-07 03:33 PM
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If my memory serves me right, you were sceptical about UA93 landing at Cleveland from the very beginning, and completly ruled it out very soon.
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Woody Box
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Wed Feb-14-07 03:48 PM
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the Flight 93 message was interesting, but unconfirmed, so I put it just as a sidenote.
But nevertheless, the history of the message afterwards was amazing...
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Kesha
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Tue Feb-20-07 03:39 AM
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It`s truly amazing to see what one can do with a computer, google and an open mind.
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