What if 9/11 was preemptive strike

[LibertyorDeath]

I posted this in GD but I realized it should be here.

According to many who have studied this event it has many

of the hallmarks of a State sponsored attack.

What if it was?

What if it was the Saudi Royals.

Indulge me here for a minute.

What if one of the most Corrupt regimes to ever hold power The Saudis

Royals pulled of a preemptive attack of such ferocity that the Neocons

had to back down from their secret covert plan to overthrow

this regime.

Instead they did the next best thing & invaded their

neighbor Iraq & have now set up 14 Military bases there.

What if the Neocons had the Saudi Royal Family in their sites all

along, but the Saudis beat them to the punch.


The Saudis are armed to the Teeth by the USA so it would have to be

a covert op that was in the works to destabilize their regime from

within.

The Saudi Royals have many internal problems from decades of

autocratic rule American black ops could fund & support an overthrow

of this Regime.

If the Saudis got wind of this they may have struck America using

one of their own who already loathes America.

Maybe Osama is not a black sheep after all.

I think the Saudi Royals are capable of this if they felt threatened

to this extent by the USA by discovering a Covert Op to overthrow

them.

What would you do as a smaller Nation State if America came gunning

for you not overtly but Covertly like they have done successfully to

many other Regimes around the World

Would you get the first punch in knowing your opponent could not

strike you back overtly without risking the very thing they want.

Control of The Worlds largest Oil supply

Would you make that first punch devastating to the point that it would

insure your survival. (in the short term at least)

Any thoughts on this.

I'm just kicking it around.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. A lot of the problems with the Saudis

is that their corrupt regime has fostered a generation of people who really have nothing to do. To keep them occupied, the royal family allowed the proliferation of fundamentalist schools, many of which are responsible for creating the terrorists we see today, imho. Couple that with the Saudi's attempt to take over all Islam with their fundamentalist ways, and they become one scary group of people.

[LibertyorDeath]

2. I agree

They are indeed a scary group of people.

Now what do you think they would do if they found out there supposed

friend the USA had a Covert Op in the works to Overthrow them.

Would they wait for the fate of all the other Regimes America has

overthrown Covertly.

Or would they strike back for their own self preservation.

When America comes gunning for you as a Government or Regime

you do not have many choices. It's Fight or Flight

and as I see it if you decided to fight in this scenario

You BETTER make your first Punch Devastating.

I know this sounds far fetched but truth is stranger than fiction

in many instances.

The power struggle for the Worlds dwindling Oil supply is on.

Maybe 9/11 was a manifestation of this.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. We must start using alternative fuels now

No reason this couldn't have started in the 70s except for the Big Oil people. If we don't, this struggle will only get nastier.

[Old and In the Way]

7. And an opportunity to put people back to work making US energy

independence with a decentralized power grid as a national security/economic priority.

Think of what we could have built with the $1TT Bush has burned from our Treasury in 3 short years. It could have financed our economic revitalization instead of squandering it on undeserved taxcuts and an immoral war/occupation that we are quagmired in. I'm convinced this was a pre-emptive strike by Big Oil to keep that energy needle pumping oil through our veins.

[LibertyorDeath]

4. To add to this

I would say

Cutting off Americas Oil supply would not a be good option for the

Saudis in this scenario as it would give America the pretext it needs

to go after them under the umbrella of a Western Coalition.

America could also Freeze the Trillions of $ the

Saudis have invested in the USA.

No if America decided to try and bring down the House of Saud

from the Inside it would leave the Saudi Royals very few options.

IMO.

[Auntie Bush]

5. Pardon...but I must leave the room to get some foil for my hat.

[LibertyorDeath]

6. Tin Foil No. Speculation based on History.

Overthrowing Governments
Since 1945, the United States has attempted to overthrow more than 35 foreign governments, and to put down more than 20 popular revolutions being waged against repressive regimes. American officials, who would not dare to interfere in matters of state of Kansas, do not hesitate to do so in the affairs of other nations.

http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2003/02/31310.php

DESTABILIZATION AND ASSASSINATIONS. If a country did not cooperate with the United States, the CIA frequently emerged as a destabilization and assassination force. Its clandestine operations assumed a variety of forms:

The outright murder of political leaders -- the Congo's Lumumba and Salvador Allende of Chile were just two heads of state who were eliminated.

Eight documented attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro, one of which occurred on the day John F. Kennedy was killed.

Direct conspiracies with terrorists and military forces to overthrow unfavorable countries such as the Congo, Indonesia, Chile, Greece, Guatemala, and Iran.

Funding of foreign politicians to overthrow democratically elected Goulart of Brazil in 1964; to elect Violetta Chamorro and her 15-party coalition and defeat the democratically elected Sandinista government in 1990.

http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/jphuck/BOOK3Ch3Part1.html

If your Country was the largest consumer of Oil on the Planet

and you had the ability to covertly overthrow the Regime that

Controlled thet largest amount of said Oil.

Would you do it.

Would you be tempted.

Especially if the Regime that controlled the Oil was being propped up

by you.

Cut out the middle man why should America be beholden to the Saudis

It's in Americas National interest after all.

I'm sure their are Factions ie the Neocons within the American

Establishment that would like nothing more than to Overthrow the House

of Saud.

[Old and In the Way]

8. I kind of doubt it.

House of Saud is pretty secure....thanks to a 7% investment in our economy. Quite a weapon when you think of it......3,000 or so people owning 7% of our country's investments. Thanks Ron and GHW Bush and the Grand Oil Party for letting this happen.

[shimmergal]

9. An interesting theory,

and no more far-fetched than many others I've heard.

Certainly the BFEE has lots of practice at organizing coups, foreign and domestic.
And about that 7% investment in the US economy by Saudi interests. If US _really_ wanted to minimize backblow from its possible withdrawal, a pre-emptive freezing of all Saudi assets could do it.

Against this argument--there's a lot of evidence that the PNAC lust to invade Iraq goes back way before *'s taking over the White House.

And as pointed out in F9/11, that whole gang is buddy-buddies with the House of Saud. Blood may be thicker than water, but money plus oil make an even thicker, viscous (or do I mean vicious?) mess.

On the third hand, by invading Iraq, Bush* gave Osama what he _says_ he most wanted: US troops out of Saudi Arabia.

Hmmmm. . .

[Blue Member]

10. Pre-Empted

Now replace Saudia Arabia with MOSSAD/PNAC/NEOCON/ZIONISM. And you will be on the right track.

[objection]

11. Nah

That's like saying that 9/11 was organised by Martians to prevent an attack on Mars, and because there was no attack on Mars it must have worked.

If Rumsfled had the hardware he'd long since have attacked Mars and 9/11 would not have put him off. You'd be told that Bin Laden had gone there to hide out.