Kucinich is about to loose his election because....................

[seemslikeadream]

his insistance that the put options be investigated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HClpG2B8yqI

[Bolo Boffin]

1. Um...

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/02/kucinich_supporters_donate_nea.html

U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich's plea to supporters to send money has paid off.

In the past six weeks, Kucinich raised nearly $700,000 in his bid to hold onto his 10th Congressional District seat. That brings his total to $735,000, the most he has amassed in a congressional race, including his initial bid 12 years ago against incumbent Martin Hoke.

His top rival, Cleveland Councilman Joe Cimperman, reported total contributions of $487,000, a little over half which was raised this year.

Maybe he'll be alright.

[seemslikeadream]

2. Kucinich says he faces "swiftboat" attack

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/02/kucinich_says_he_faces_swiftbo.html

[Bolo Boffin]

4. My article was posted after yours.

Same day, but Dennis has got $700,000 to complain loudly about being swiftboated.

From your article:

Cimperman, a former Kucinich supporter, said he doesn't regret helping to raise money a few years ago so a portrait of former Mayor Dennis Kucinich could be hung in City Hall.

"The person I supported then isn't the person he is now," Cimperman said.

That's who is "swiftboating" him now. Nothing mentioned at your article about how Dennis is being attacked other than not paying attention to his district.

[seemslikeadream]

6. Who's giving money to Cimperman

[Bolo Boffin]

7. People who live IN Ohio

Kucinich's big money givers, who donated a total of $230,000, primarily live outside of Ohio. A third of the money came from California, where 120 people donated a total of $75,700. Ohioans contributed nearly $25,000. His other top states for donations were New York, Massachusetts and Oregon.

His supporters include singer Bonnie Raitt, best-selling author and New Age lecturer Marianne Williamson and "Million Dollar Baby" film writer Paul Haggis, along with numerous college professors, artists and retirees.

Cimperman's supporters are almost all Ohioans. The roster includes Cleveland Indians attorney Paul Dolan, downtown real estate developer Richard Jacobs and Crocker Park developer Bob Stark. The United Food and Commercial Workers Local 880 gave $5,000.

Cimperman collected $15,000 from people outside Ohio.

Perhaps Kucinch hasn't been paying enough attention to his district.

[seemslikeadream]

9. oh yes the little people

Progressive takes field for a price
http://www.ohio.com/sports/ocker/13727147.html

[Bolo Boffin]

11. I see what you mean. Bonnie Raitt and Marianne Williamson...

Oh, wait. They're giving to Kucinich.

What was your point again?

[seemslikeadream]

14. Hard to compete with Democrats that give money to Republicans!!

Paul Dolan or is he a Republican?

[Bolo Boffin]

17. Hard to compete with spiritual con artists!!

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1997/11/gorov.html

[seemslikeadream]

20. Weren't you the one with Dennis' picture for your avatar?

or am I confusing you with someone else here, hard to keep you guys staight, ya'll sound the same

[Bolo Boffin]

22. Yes, for a short while I was supporting Kucinich for president

Whether he goes back to Congress or not, I don't care.

[seemslikeadream]

23. That's extremely interesting to me

and just why did you support him for president?

[Bolo Boffin]

24. Because he was against the Iraq War

But other things finally pushed me away. I believe it was about the time I saw his chemtrails legislation (I know it was rather gingerly phrased, but sigh).

Went to Barack. And after McClurkin, I bounced to Dodd to Edwards. Now I'm going to vote for Barack here in Texas, and gearing up to support the Dem nominee in November.

That was fun!

[seemslikeadream]

25. Just when did you become aware of Dennis/chemtrails connection?

[Bolo Boffin]

26. When one of the 9/11 activists here kindly rubbed in my face.

Search is your friend.

[seemslikeadream]

27. So you didn't know about Dennis and the Weather Modification

when you supported him for president?

[Bolo Boffin]

28. What did I just say? Reading is fundamental. n/t

[seemslikeadream]

29. When one of the 9/11 activists here kindly rubbed in my face.

That does not tell me the date, before or after you supported him, you should have that off the top of your head

I can see why you might avoid the answer ,

[Bolo Boffin]

30. I don't remember the date. The date isn't important to me.

The date is important to you. Search is your friend. All this time, you could have been searching and had your fucking answer.

[seemslikeadream]

31. BEFORE OR AFTER

I DON'T NEED A DATE

[Bolo Boffin]

32. SLAD, one question --

How do you keep an idiot in suspense?

[seemslikeadream]

33. I realize it would be quite embarassing to admit you supported Dennis

knowing about the Weather thing

[Bolo Boffin]

34. I haven't done that. That's not true.

As I said CLEARLY, it was probably about the time I learned about that that I switched.

How fucking stupid does a person have to be to continue to ask me questions after I made a statement like that?

ETA: Never mind. How fucking stupid does someone have to be to keep answering intrustive, fucking stupid questions from someone too thick to understand plain English? Ugh.

[seemslikeadream]

35. OK then you supported Dennis not knowing about the Weather thing

I just thought that was a given in this forum

[Matthewtheogre]

161. Good question n/t

[seemslikeadream]

8. Do you still support Dennis?

[Bolo Boffin]

13. I don't care one way or the other

But the issue doesn't seem to be about what you claim it's about.

[Tinita]

85. Even with Kucinich out, I support him

I share most of his political views.

[seemslikeadream]

3. Is Dennis Kucinich Getting McKinney’d

From www.dissidentvoice.org:

Is Dennis Kucinich Getting McKinney’d

Former Presidential Candidate Who Advocated Peace and Impeachment Facing Well-Financed Challenge at Home

by Kevin Zeese / February 9th, 2008

On the Hill some call it being McKinney’d — the treatment Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney received when she was in Congress. Twice, rather than protecting the incumbent, the Democrats put up well funded challengers against her. Now, it looks like Dennis Kucinich may be facing the same treatment in Cleveland.

There is a report circulating the web that before the Nevada primary Kucinich was visited by representatives of Nancy Pelosi and the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, the right wing Israeli lobby. They told him that if he would drop his campaigns to impeach Cheney and Bush, they would guarantee his re-election to the House of Representatives. Kucinich threw them out of his office.

Kucinich has aggressively challenged the Democratic Party leadership in Congress and on the presidential campaign trail on the issues of war, civil liberties, impeachment and big business control of government. He’s even refused to pledge to endorse the party’s presidential nominee.

The Democratic leadership has insisted that impeachment was off the table since taking control of the House in 2006. Congressman Conyers, Chair of the Judiciary Committee, has even refused to investigate whether President Bush and Vice President Cheney have violated the law. But Kucinich pushed the issue. He introduced articles of impeachment against Cheney, then against Bush and he brought the issue up on the House floor. He pushed and pushed to try to make sure the president and vice president were not above the law.

On the campaign trail he didn’t let Senator Clinton or Obama get away with campaign peace rhetoric in the Democratic primary while they voted war funding with no strings attached in the senate. He pointed out that their rhetoric was not consistent with their actions. He pushed the issue of all troops being removed; while Obama and Clinton parse their words carefully making it clear they will withdraw only some of the troops and neither promising a complete troop withdrawal even by 2012.

And he pierced the veil of campaign rhetoric of Democrats who call for “universal health care” but put forward plans that will enrich their donors in the private health insurance industry.

On issue after issue Kucinich pushed against the Democratic Party leadership — now, it seems he is paying a price.

[Bolo Boffin]

5. That article is two weeks after mine.

I think Dennis is going to be aight.

[Behind the Aegis]

37. ummm...

Kucinich: "The Incident Did Not Happen"

At least part of that diatribe is bullshit.

[seemslikeadream]

10. Thank You real Democrats.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x126072

126072, Kucinich supporters donate nearly $700,000 in six weeks
Posted by cyclezealot on Fri Feb-22-08 05:06 AM

Thank You real Democrats. We came through for Dennis Kucinich. Dennis, use it well. Don't let Cimperman get away with his lies. I was afraid the presidential race caused us to forget who has been out there doing the heavy lifting these past two years.
**********

U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich's plea to supporters to send money has paid off.

In the past six weeks, Kucinich raised nearly $700,000 in his bid to hold onto his 10th Congressional District seat. That brings his total to $735,000, the most he has amassed in a congressional race, including his initial bid 12 years ago against incumbent Martin Hoke.

His top rival, Cleveland Councilman Joe Cimperman, reported total contributions of $487,000, a little over half which was raised this year.

Thursday was the deadline for congressional candidates to file pre-primary finance reports with the Federal Elections Commission. To check the reports go to fec.gov.



Kucinich's big money givers, who donated a total of $230,000, primarily live outside of Ohio. A third of the money came from California, where 120 people donated a total of $75,700. Ohioans contributed nearly $25,000. His other top states for donations were New York, Massachusetts and Oregon.

His supporters include singer Bonnie Raitt, best-selling author and New Age lecturer Marianne Williamson and "Million Dollar Baby" film writer Paul Haggis, along with numerous college professors, artists and retirees.

Cimperman's supporters are almost all Ohioans. The roster includes Cleveland Indians attorney Paul Dolan, downtown real estate developer Richard Jacobs and Crocker Park developer Bob Stark. The United Food and Commercial Workers Local 880 gave $5,000.

Cimperman collected $15,000 from people outside Ohio.

Both candidates appear to have sizeable amounts of money left to spend. As of Feb. 13. Kucinich reported having $330,000 and Cimperman, $215,000.

The other three candidates reported much smaller war chests.

Rosemary Palmer has raised $55,000 and lent her campaign $106,000. The former teacher and journalist who is opposed to the war entered the run after her U.S. Marine son was killed in combat in Iraq.

North Olmsted Mayor Thomas O'Grady has raised $37,000. Barbara Ferris, the head of a nonprofit International Women's Democracy Center, has raised close to $17,000 in donations.

http://blog.cleveland.com/openers/2008/02/kucinich_supporters_donate_nea.html

[Bolo Boffin]

12. Now if you would just move to Ohio so you can vote for Dennis

that would be great.

[seemslikeadream]

15. How do you know I don't live there?

[Bolo Boffin]

16. I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about Kucinich's big money donors.

He's only raised $25,000 inside Ohio. His main opponent has raised over $400,000 from Ohioans.

[seemslikeadream]

18. Now if you would just move to Ohio so you can vote for Dennis

Then who were you talking to bolo?

[Bolo Boffin]

19. Can you read? I explained who I meant. n/t

[seemslikeadream]

21. ya sure, whatever

[Algorem]

66. Wow.The Great Boloboffin.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[Bolo Boffin]

71. ...

[Laurier]

36. No, he's going to lose because most Dems don't support him.

What does that tell you?

[seemslikeadream]

38. That's bullshit

I'm wondering if YOU were paying attention when he won here, as to who DU wanted to be the nominee for PRESIDENT

And Gore lost....why?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich

Foreign policy record
Kucinich has criticized the foreign policy of President Bush, including the 2003 invasion of Iraq and what he perceives as growing American hostility towards Iran. He has since voted against funding it 100% of the time. In 2005, Kucinich voted against the Iran Freedom and Support Act, calling it a "stepping stone to war."<28> The congressman also signed a letter of solidarity with Hugo Chávez in Venezuela in 2004.<29>

He advocates the abolition of all nuclear weapons calling on the United States to be the leader in multilateral disarmament.<30> Kucinich has also been a strong opponent of space based weapons and has sponsored legislation, HR 2977, banning the deployment and use of space-based weapons.<31>

Kucinich advocates U.S. withdrawal from the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) because, in his view, it causes the loss of more American jobs than it creates, and does not provide adequate protections for worker rights and safety and environmental safeguards. He is against the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA) for the same reason.<32>

Kucinich is also in favor of increased dialogue with Iran in order to avoid a militaristic confrontation at all costs. He expressed such sentiments at an American Iranian Council conference in New Brunswick, New Jersey which included Chuck Hagel, Javad Zarif, Nicholas Kristof, and Anders Liden to discuss Iranian-American relations, and potential ways to increase dialogue in order to avoid conflict.<33>

He believes the U.S. should move aggressively to reduce emissions that cause climate change due to global warming<34> and should ratify the Kyoto Protocol, a major international agreement signed by over 160 countries to reduce the amount of greenhouse gases emitted by each signatory.<35>

Kucinich and Ron Paul are the only two congressional representatives who voted<36> against the Rothman-Kirk Resolution,<37> which calls on the United Nations to charge Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with violating the genocide convention of the United Nations Charter based on statements that he has made. Kucinich defended his vote by saying that Ahmadinejad's statements could be translated to mean that he wants a regime change in Israel, not death to its people and supporters, and that the resolution is an attempt to beat "the war drum to build support for a U.S. attack on Iran."<38>

Kucinich is the only congressional representative to vote against<39> the symbolic "9/11 Commemoration" resolution.<40> In a press statement<41> he defended his nay vote by saying that the bill did not make reference to "the lies that took us into Iraq, the lies that keep us there, the lies that are being used to set the stage for war against Iran and the lies that have undermined our basic civil liberties here at home."

In a visit to the rest of the Middle East in September 2007, Kucinich said he did not visit Iraq because "I feel the United States is engaging in an illegal occupation."<42> Kucinich was criticized for his visit to Syria and praise of the President Bashar al-Assad on Syria's national TV.<43> He praised Syria for taking in Iraqi refugees. "What most people are not aware of is that Syria has taken in more than 1.5 million Iraqi refugees," Kucinich said. "The Syrian government has actually shown a lot of compassion in keeping its doors open, and being a host for so many refugees."<44>

Despite Kucinich's committed opposition to the war in Iraq, the Congressman did vote to authorize President Bush broad war making powers in the days following the September 11, 2001 attacks.<45> The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists, has been cited by the Bush Administration in its justification for suspension of habeas corpus in the Guantanamo Bay detention camp and its wiretapping of American citizens under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Kucinich voted along with 419 of his House colleagues in favor of this resolution, while only one Congresswoman opposed, Representative Barbara Lee.





YEA DEMS HATE HIM FOR WHAT HE STANDS FOR

[seemslikeadream]

162. KUCINICH - 23666 --- Woot! - CIMPERMAN - 14234

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2960767&mesg_id=2960856

[Grateful for Hope]

163. Isn't that excellent?

Shows that his constituents continue to have faith in him.

[seemslikeadream]

164. I guess most Dems DO support him

[Grateful for Hope]

165. How about that?

He has kept his following despite the efforts of the MSM to marginalize him.

Go Dennis!

[Name removed]

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[toasteroven08]

42. Even with your crappy attempt at a hit job....

... Toaster Oven is STILL leading in the polls:



No one is better prepared to face the republicans than the TO/WI ticket.

[Honkbag-08]

43. Prepared?

"No one is better prepared to face the republicans than the TO/WI ticket."

We all know that Toaster Ovens AND Waffle Irons power base is Big Coal and Big Oil. Sure he makes platitudes towards greener energy but time and time again he goes back to Big Oil and Big Coal. It's his power base. He might as well be in the neocons pockets at this point. I don't know about you but I don't want any more blood wars for oil.

Honkbag is environmentally friendly, for example his stance on getting Styrofoam out of our environment is well documented and he isn't beholden to Big Oil or Big Coal.

:thumbsdown: to you sir

[toasteroven08]

44. Honkbag kills children...

It is a well known and established fact that Honkbag cannot, under any circumstances be left alone with children. He is a danger and a menace...

Why do you hate the children????

[Honkbag-08]

46. Hate the childeren?

Honkbag loves children. Why would you say such an evil untrue thing about Honkbag?

[toasteroven08]

48. Are you kidding???

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=plastic+bag+children+death&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn

[toasteroven08]

49. PROOF of it too

"About 25 children in the United States suffocate each year due to plastic bags, most under the age of one year. This has led to voluntary warning labels on some bags, especially dry cleaning bags, which pose a hazard when placed on the same adult bed as a baby"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plastic_bag

[Honkbag-08]

52. Honkbag...

Is very careful. Honkbag has a warning label. Honkbag is not a flimsy little dry cleaner bag that easily goes with the shifting winds of opinion. Honkbag is however filled with squeaky toys and those fun, old time bulb horns that we all remember from our youth.

What does Toaster Oven and Waffle Iron do to children? They BURN them, sometimes disfiguring them for life. I say the electorate ask themselves, who really hates the children?

[toasteroven08]

53. Oh, so you want to....

... bring Old Timey Bicycle back into the race i see. You know just as well as I do that Old Timey Bicycle is done.

You say he doesn't try to entice children, but then in the same breath you say he's full of squeaky toys. You're a hypocrite.

[Honkbag-08]

56. I never said...

that he was full of either. Stop trying to change the subject with a strawman argument that I never made. I would also like to point out that the whole reason that Old Timey Bicycle time is done is because of candidates like your Toaster Oven that dip into the trough of Big Oil in an attempt to make him obsolete. Well he's not obsolete yet. His grandchildren are here today in garages across our great land and they will remember what Toaster Oven did and make it right. Face it, Toaster oven is, well, toast...

[toasteroven08]

57. Not hardly!

YOU were the one that brought up Old Timey Bicycle's horn; not me. How do you call that a strawman? You think Honkbag doesn't have an interest in Big Oil? How many barrels does it take to make plastic. Seriously, you're deranged.

[Honkbag-08]

59. I never mentioned...

Old Timey Bicycle, you did.

While it's true that honkbag does have a little bit of interest in petroleum it has been, and always will be, a one time thing. Honkbag doesn't need to be coming back to the trough of big oil day after day just to keep going. The supply of oil could dry up tomorrow and honkbag will still be around doing what he does best. Can Toaster Oven or Waffle Iron do the same? I think not.

[toasteroven08]

61. TO is not a Big Oil Shill....

How can you say that TO is a shill for Big Oil? There are so many options for TO/WI that it's crazy. In fact, he's pro-nuclear power. When you bring this type of thing up to honkbag, he just melts away.

[Honkbag-08]

45. Also...

Using old polling data doesn't help your case, after the scandal broke about your illegitimate, teen pregnant child the latest polls show that Honkbags tide has risen.

[toasteroven08]

47. Not the reason....

His showing in YOUR OBVIOUSLY FAKE poll numbers only show that the people voting for him hate children. Toaster Oven makes breakfast for the kids all the time. Look at his cabinet: toaster strudels and pop tarts are promiment members.

[Honkbag-08]

50. You are obviously...

feeling defensive over this. Show me where the polls were wrong. Honkbag doesn't push-poll to get false results. Keeping toaster strudels and pop tarts in the cabinets is IMHO a means of torture for those poor children, I'll bet that they are kept hidden behind child-proof locks and/or on the top shelves where they can't reach them. What's next? Is Toaster Oven and Waffle Iron going to break out the waterboard?

HAVE YOU NO SHAME?

[toasteroven08]

51. Waterboarding -- 2 things

Seriously, are you promoting childhood obesity? Child-locks on pop-tarts are a parents perogative, and Toaster Oven respects the choice of the parent in either situation.

Also, what do you have against water? Water is vital to our survival, and the TO/WI will push forward with invigorating steam on this issue.

[Honkbag-08]

54. Water, also known as...

Dihydrogen Monoxide, kills tens of thousands yearly, including children. It's also found in many biopsies of pre-cancerous tumors and lesions. You call that a good thing? Do you wish a long and painful death by cancer on our children?

[toasteroven08]

55. Your chemical analysis...

... fails on so many levels. Everyone knows that the most accurate label is Hydrogen Hydroxide and YOUR candidate contains more of this nasty contanimate than Toaster Oven. You're just a shill for Big Water.

[Name removed]

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[Bolo Boffin]

60. What happens now that Crash Dummie has declared a third candidacy? n/t

[toasteroven08]

63. Crash Test Dummy

His campaign was wrecked from the get go. Next you'll be trying to tell me that Parking Meter has a shot. Ya... right.

[Honkbag-08]

65. Crash Test Dummy...

is an empty suit at best. Sure, in years past he helped Edsel out a little but since then he's been nothing but a failure. I'll simply point you to the excellent documentary series called 'Mythbusters' and point out that he has repeatedly failed at accomplishing his goals. Sure, I'll admit that he has had some minor victories but overall he has crashed and burned far to many times to be a viable candidate in todays world of violence and terrorism.

[seemslikeadream]

69. bolo I'm sure you did the honorable thing here and alerted on them?

[toasteroven08]

62. One example.... just one....

I want you to show me one example where Toaster Oven and Waffle Iron in proximity to water. Just one. Unless you're using some magic google that I'm not aware of, my search found nothing.

Face it, your candidate is flimsy on this (and all other) issues, because he's a flimsy candidate. His stance on Hydic Acid is pitiful. "Use an umbrella" you say??? HA!

[Honkbag-08]

64. Just one huh?

Here you go. Here is what happens to small children when they are near Toaster Oven and Waffle Iron with water around:


(image cropped to omit the gory parts)

Look at that poor child, she's terrified and is obviously in great pain as the electricity provided by Big Oil is coursing through her veins. The shame of Toaster Oven and Waffle Iron knows no bounds.

[seemslikeadream]

68. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU

AND WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING IN MY THREAD?

[SDuderstadt]

70. I don't know who....

Honkbag and Toaster Oven are, but they make at least as much sense as you do, although that's not saying much.

[seemslikeadream]

72. Nice set up

[SDuderstadt]

73. As I said earlier...

I have no idea who they are...I just use straight lines where I find them.

[seemslikeadream]

74. Holding a grudge

doesn't look good on you, gonna get this locked too?

[SDuderstadt]

76. Let's get something straight...

YOU got the thread locked for violating DU's rules for citing copyrighted material. Don't even remotely think of trying to lay this off on me. Your lack of honesty is absolutely stunning.

Lithos (1000+ posts) Sun Feb-24-08 10:19 PM
Response to Original message
72. Locking
Please note

DU's policy concerning copyrighted material is to post no more than 3-4 paragraphs and a link. This includes images of the article text.

Lithos
DU Moderator

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=196207&mesg_id=196316

[seemslikeadream]

77. I posted those very same pictures in GD not more than a month ago

and they were never deleted.

[SDuderstadt]

78. Well, take it up with Lithos, then...

and quit making false accusations it was me who got the thread locked.

[AZCat]

75. I don't know who they are...

but this appears to be the only thread either of them have posted in. One has a disabled profile but the other joined DU today. I suspect this is satire. Why they chose your thread, I don't know.

[seemslikeadream]

67. WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU

AND WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING IN MY THREAD?

[salvorhardin]

79. Apparently...

WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU AND WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING IN MY THREAD?

Apparently, proving that truthers are humor impaired?

[seemslikeadream]

81. OH IT'S HUMOR TO YOU WHEN YOUR COHORTS BREAK THE RULES

AS YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE BEEN TOMBED SO BREAKING THE RULES IS JUST FINE WITH YOU I'LL REMEMBER THAT


APPARTENTLY LITHOS DIDN'T THINK IT WAS AMUSING, I'LL INCLUDED YOUR REMARKS IN MY EMAIL TO SKINNER

[salvorhardin]

82. In case you hadn't noticed

There's this button on your keyboard labeled "Caps Lock". Sometimes people hit it accidentally and don't notice the little light with the same label is lit up. Luckily, hitting that button again will easily correct the problem.

[seemslikeadream]

83. No actually I was yelling

[SidDithers]

84. You know you've stepped in it...

when SLAD goes ALL CAPS on your ass.

Sid

[seemslikeadream]

89. .

[seemslikeadream]

99. ya sal stepped in it. It seems SLaD has a very good memory

when it comes to liars

[Anarcho-Socialist]

88. Whose "cohorts" are they?

I have no idea who was responsible for that exchange, and how do you know they're anything to do with salvorhardin?

[seemslikeadream]

91. I know the style, I've seen it before, haven't I sal?

[Anarcho-Socialist]

93. so, do you know who was behind it or what?

[seemslikeadream]

94. sal showed true colors a long time ago

and I'll never forget it or deleted it from my computer

[Anarcho-Socialist]

98. If you have proof of whatever, send it to the admins

[salvorhardin]

100. Ooo.

I'm quaking in my boots. Not.

Now, now, slad, the nice black helicopters will be around to help you out shortly.

[seemslikeadream]

101. Let me REFRESH your memory sal, remember that little conspiracy theory YOU AND YOUR FRIEND

BOZO BELIEVED ABOUT FOLKS HERE AT DU??

HOW YOU AND YOUR FRIEND WERE ALL OVER THE INTERNET SPREADING LIES ABOUT US?

DIFFERENT DAY SAME OLD TRICKS, TRY SOMETHING NEW


SPEND MUCH TIME IN THE ELECTION FORUM THESE DAYS? IT SURE WAS OF INTEREST TO YOU AWHILE BACK

[salvorhardin]

107. "ABOUT US"?

Who is "US"?

[Name removed]

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[salvorhardin]

110. That I was trashing?

Please provide a list of DUers I was trashing, with links to such posts. I get hot headed sometimes and it's possible, but no, I don't remember anyone I was personally trashing, otherwise I've got to think you're misremembering. On the other hand, if those posters are no longer with us then I have to assume they were disruptors and appropriately banned.

It seems like you accusing me of "trashing" other DUers is in itself a personal attack.

[seemslikeadream]

111. Were you or were you not part of Bozo's brigade?

And his grand conspiracy theory about some DUer's here?

[salvorhardin]

112. Please provide links justifying your assertions n/t

[seemslikeadream]

113. Do you remember any of these names?

Harmony Guy
Luaptifer
ChicanoPwr
Salvorhardin

and their quest to out the Fablecrusaders?

[eowyn_of_rohan]

160. LOL! Don't forget...

SomthingsGotaGive & BigTent

(Getting into this late--am on vaca with little internet access!):toast:

[seemslikeadream]

114. That's odd coming from you because I wanted the same proof from you and

Bozo about me, which you could not do

[salvorhardin]

115. So you've got nothing

You're just making sinister insinuations again.

Please provide links to support your allegations.

[seemslikeadream]

116. oh yes I do but again back when YOU, Bozo, Harmony Guy, Luaptifer and ChicanoPwr

were spewing your shit all over the internet about me and other DUer's I begged you all to stop, that you were mistaken, that I was not part of, had nothing to do with this "Fablecrusaders" shit. Bozo came back here 5 TIMES under different names accusing us of absolute crap and where were you then, still friends with this asshole, helping him UNMASK THE EVIL FABLECRUSADERS.

Strange FABLECRUSADERS doesn't ring a bell with you? Are you sure? You have no idea who Bozo is?

You do have the google don't you? It's all there, except the stuff that was deleted from DU, I have that. Find the links yourself


one of the most revealing parts is the interjection of nationality, by Bozo into all of this

[seemslikeadream]

117. Oh I get it YOU are a victim of Bozo also

that must be it, how does it feel to have Bozo lying about you too? :shrug:

[Anarcho-Socialist]

118. Could you tell me what Bozo's brigade is/was?

who Bozo is, and what the grand conspiracy was? Do you have links that can help me understand what's happening here?

[seemslikeadream]

102. You did believe in that conspiracy theory didn't you sal?

I guess it depends on what conspiracy fits your needs huh? Do you think any of us have forgotten your little smear tactic? Well no we haven't, long memories, once a proven liar always a liar

[seemslikeadream]

103. I could care less if your quaking or quacking in your boots

you actually mean nothing to me but don't come around me with your high minded garbage and think I'm gonna ever ignore you. Bring it on sal, how is old Bozo these days?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHJMp5bz9u8

[Anarcho-Socialist]

87. I thought the exchange was amusing

it probably would have been suitable in GDP or in the Lounge, where its satirical merits would have been more appreciated.

[seemslikeadream]

90. It wasn't amusing it was against DU rules which YOU are always ranting about

[Anarcho-Socialist]

92. there is no equivalence across each rule

i.e. rickrolling is not the same as supporting a hate agenda, and as such each breaking of rules should be approached individually.

[seemslikeadream]

95. whatever ..... they've been tombed

[seemslikeadream]

96. to tell the truth I thought we had an agreement to be civil with each other

no doubt your word means NOTHING





animosity and/or feud situation

RING A BELL?



I guess that was a bunch of bulllshit, huh?

[Anarcho-Socialist]

97. That still stands, what makes you think it does not?

I can disagree with you slad. I haven't insulted you, or belittled you. How have I not been civil to you?

[SidDithers]

104. Probably the Lounge...

but I found it amusing as well.

Sid

[seemslikeadream]

105. You find it amusing for people to break DU rules?

I'll remember that

[SidDithers]

106. Yeah, we know...

you've got a long memory, you're making a list and checking it twice, and on and on...

Though, I admit, I did find it pretty amusing when you broke all those copyright rules by posting images of pages from that Washington Times magazine last week.

So, yeah, I guess I do find it amusting for people to break DU rules.

Sid

[seemslikeadream]

108. As I told you before I was going by what the mod told me in GD

[Beam Me Up]

80. They are trashing it, seems. Its a tactic.

This kind of thing, although under a cover of more relevance, has been going on in this forum for a long time. Looks like the same person using two identities. Agenda: make the thread useless and essentially unreadable. Mission accomplished.

[Radioactive Ass]

119. I'm the one...

Who got it started, I was Honkbag-08 (may he rest in peace). Lay off of the innocents here and get a sense of humor.

This all started at a Fark.com thread and should end right now.

"Your" thread got picked because it was about, in a general sense, candidates. The Dungeon was picked because, and I'll admit it, I didn't know about the lounge and it's permissive environment, so I went with what I thought was a somewhat loosely moderated board with little traffic. That you went into immediate attack mode and accused people who had nothing to do with it speaks volumes about you however.

Now, a little bit about me. I've voted on the right more times than I care to admit. I've spent more time underwater prepared to launch ballistic missiles than you have spent on the shitter in your lifetime. I gave $301.00 to Obama last month. He'd call me an Obamacin(sp). The thing is that I don't whisper it.

My bad.

http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=3422585

[seemslikeadream]

120. Ya you are bad and will be banned again

Funny you come back and feel the need to exonerate, I'm not buying it. You break the rules again and I'm supposed to believe you, bye bye

[SidDithers]

121. Welcome (back) to DU...nt

Sid

[Grateful for Hope]

122. Apparently DU doesn't share your sentiments

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=user_profiles&u_id=193952

[SidDithers]

124. Ah well, c'est la vie...

I thought the subthread was humourous, even if it was in the wrong place.

Sid

[seemslikeadream]

126. One man's humor is another man's rule breaking

[SidDithers]

127. One woman's rule breaking is another man's humour...nt

Sid

[seemslikeadream]

128. You should properly thank them for their contribution

since it brought you such pleasure, one could come to the conclusion that you enjoyed it a bit too much

Pearls Before Swine - Another Time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPxpMVd0v4s

Where have you been to?
Where did you go?
Did you follow the summer out
When the winter pushed its face in the snow?
Or have you come by again
To die again?
Try again another time

Did you follow the Crystal Swan?
Did you see yourself
Deep inside the Velvet Pond?
Or have you come by again
To die again?
Try again another time

When you set to shape the world
was the shape the shape of you?
or did you cast enchanting glance
through the eye that all men use?
Or have you come by again
to die again?
try again another time

Did you find that the Universe
Doesn't care at all?
Did you find that if you don't care
This whole wrong world will fall?
Or have you come by again
To die again?
Try again another time

Did you ever capture
All those jewels in the sky?
Did you find that the world outside
Is all inside your mind?
Or have you come by again
To die again
Try again another time

Pearls Before Swine - Drop Out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaKmZAJ-hdg

Drop out with me
And just live your life
Behind your eyes
Your own skies
Your own tomorrows

Just be yourself
And no one can step
Inside your mind
From behind
If you just walk out

They made the rules
And they laid it
On us all
Don't you fall
'Cause then they own you

They're using you
To kill all the echoes still
Around
From the sound
Of calendars crumbling

They made the bomb
Would they drop it
On us all?
Great and small.
But must we follow
Drop out with me.

[seemslikeadream]

129. Matthew 7:6

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet.

[SidDithers]

130. Ahhh, a true believer...

that explains a lot.

Sid

[seemslikeadream]

131. just an explanation

[SidDithers]

132. It certainly is..nt

Sid

[seemslikeadream]

135. and with more certainty

we have differing views of what the pearls are and who the swine maybe

[AZCat]

133. It is my experience...

that whatever is given unto the dogs, if it is not holy when given, will soon be.

[seemslikeadream]

134. Please don't compare

toasteroven08 AND Honkbag-08 to dogs..........

Dogs are wonerful creatures




uh maybe you were refering to someone else?

[Bolo Boffin]

136. Unbelievable.

So when you post wackiness to your own thread, it's ok, but when others do it, it's AN UNFORGIVABLE SIN@!!!!!!!!!!?/./1/1/1/.1;./1;LK23RJKHQW4POI1?????

[seemslikeadream]

137. I thought ya'll found stuff like this amusing?

I aim to please

[AZCat]

139. Owwwwww, that was painful.

Look at those poor guys! Can't you at least give them a bone? :(

[seemslikeadream]

125. Why would some idiot/idiots feel the need to come back here and give us all an explanation?

Oh how very odd.

We are supposed to believe that he/she/they care so much about some DUer's reputation that they must take the time to come back, read all the remarks, and are so "concerned???" reregister to give us all a detailed explanation. Some random prankster cares so much about folks at DU? How does someone who is not a member here even know about this forum? Most the RESISTERED DUer's here don't know about it.

[Grateful for Hope]

138. It was odd

Those postings were not only disrepectful to your thread, I think they were planned to do just what they did...disrupt it.

[seemslikeadream]

140. AND

now I'm accused of disrupting my own thread after it has already been totally hijacked

[Grateful for Hope]

141. Anything to try to put you in a bad light, SLaD

You are very respected on DU, so, of course, it doesn't work.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

142. Whether you believe the returnee or not

You've accused salvorhardin of a lot in this thread without proof. Unless you can provide proof of what you claim, then you should at least be honourable and apologise, withdraw the accusations, and admit you made a mistake.

[seemslikeadream]

143. He knows what I have said is true

[salvorhardin]

144. No he doesn't

Let's get this straight slad. What did I, that's me, and me alone, do? Please provide proof of all allegations.

[seemslikeadream]

145. Will you admit you were friends of Bozo?

[seemslikeadream]

146. Since you seem to have forgotten who Bozo is let me refresh your memory

All I want you to do sal is leave me the fuck alone and we can end this NOW I have never sought out to bring this up only when your "high minded" bullshit remarks to me in this forum push me. I have left you alone here now leave me alone and I will never bring this up again.

This is you posting at KOS is it not? Maybe now you may believe me that I save EVERYTHING. Yes this was 3 years ago but when my reputation was being trashed you bet I saved it all. I will not forget it.

Yours truly
Whackjob

[salvorhardin]

147. How is this your reputation being trashed?

This wasn't written about you. In case you haven't noticed, not everything on the internet is about you.

Once again... What did I, that's me, and me alone, do? Please provide proof of all allegations.

Otherwise, I'll just assume this is nothing other than personal attack. By and by, calling out other DUers seems to be another rule you seem to have forgotten.

[seemslikeadream]

148. Did you not condone 'John Dean' Bozosforbush (BigTentDemocrat)coming back here, breaking DU rules?

[salvorhardin]

150. So, once again, slad has nothing

Just sinister insinuation.

[seemslikeadream]

151. refresh your memory?

[greyl]

152. Are you willing to perform an experiment, SLAD?

Imagine the world's best liberal journalist, then attempt to imitate them and their standards.

[seemslikeadream]

155. Again I ask you

Are you a journalist greyl? Why can you never answer that quetsion, I've several times?

[salvorhardin]

153. Sinister insinuations...

Once again, not everything on the internet is written about you.

[seemslikeadream]

154. sure looks like my name here, I guess I'm just seeing things

and btw I never did get that apology from him or YOU


I have more would you like to continue?

[salvorhardin]

156. Ah, OK. If you had posted that originally then I could have addressed it

I did not remember that Bozos believed you were a part of his suspected trolling ring, but you will notice that was written by him and not me. You'll also notice that is not on DU. Thanks for refreshing my memory though. However, in the end, I don't know why I should apologize for something not written by myself.

[seemslikeadream]

157. The thing is that when he came back HERE over and over again

you posted in his threads knowing he was breaking the rules.

And he did include you in his little group of 7 that were unmasking the Fablers. Maybe it would have been a good idea to keep up with what he was writing in your name

You see I REMEMBER IT VERY WELL. It was all very hurtful to me here at DU because it was MY reputation here that was at stake. But I guess my reputation meant little to you

[salvorhardin]

158. I'm sorry your delicate sensibilities were offended

There, you have my apology in so far as I can give an apology on this matter. If you want anything more, you'll have to seek it elsewhere. If you have a problem with me, then I suggest you take it up with either the moderators or the administrators of this board. Otherwise, I'm through wasting time on you.

[seemslikeadream]

159. None of this would be happening right now if you would have just

left me alone I never intended for it to escalate like this, I asked you over and over to just leave me alone but you would not stop.


delicate sensibilities, excuse me! Being accused of all of that yea I had delicate sensibilities. I love DU, I've been here since 2001 and I didn't find it amusing what was being done to me and my friends here

And now that I know it was all so unimportant to you that you honestly didn't remember how you and your friends hurt us........ well that really says alot

Thanks for the long overdue apology

[seemslikeadream]

149. You seem to have no problem breaking DU rules about friends of yours coming back here

re registering as some one else

[seemslikeadream]

123. of course you would welcome back a rule breaker

only rule breakers that break the rules the way you like

[CGowen]

86. Cleveland Limbaugh station urges Republicans to register as Democrats to defeat Dennis Kucinich

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=108x126408