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Angry Mollusk Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:12 PM
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Exploiting 9/11 to push for pointless war & the radical conservative agenda was the true conspiracy
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 07:15 PM by Angry Mollusk
I'll have to respectfully disagree with my friends who think Bush and his minions ordered the attacks on 9/11- Such would imply that Bush and his puppet masters were anything but inept and bumbling fools.
They would have to be the most well organized geniuses on earth to carry this out, fool the world and prevent any leaks. I just don't buy it.

What has defined Bush , his circle and and his decision making is utter incompitance- And the clusterfuck that is the war in Iraq is proof of the fact that planning and exercising an enterprise and carrying it out is beyond Bush's abilities-at any given time, Bush, Cheney, Rice and Rumsfeld would be contradicting each other on any given issue-Proof that even when spewing lies, they couldn't keep their acts together. I just don't think they possessed the collective intellect or ability to carry out nd cover up such a conspiracy....
I'll have to side with the great Noam Chomsky on this issue...

The true coinspiracy, in my opinion, was that Bush exploited the fear and paranoia created in the wake of 9/11 to wage war and expand executive powers.
But I defend your right to beleive it was an inside job, and keep digging- you may be right after all...
What will convince me 9/11 was an inside job? If there is another attack this year that results in the postponement of the 2008 election. If that happens, you might just win me over...Either that or turn up anyone who was part of the 'coverup' to spill the beans..

But if Bush and his ilk vacate the White house and hand the reigns of power over to the Democrats, my skeptisism will be solidified...

Peace
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ious Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:24 PM
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:24 PM
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2. I believe your list of suspects needs expanding
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 07:24 PM by seemslikeadream
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:42 PM
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3. I would have to agree with you on all counts. Well said.
I've been waiting for 6 years for some proof that the Administration was complicit, and I haven't seen it. There are many unanswered questions and unknowable things, but I haven't seen anything even remotely rising to the standards that we would expect a court of law to uphold.

I can understand the loathing that so many feel for this Administration, and that loathing makes it easy to believe that they are capable of anything.

Welcome friend.
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Angry Mollusk Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:18 PM
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4. I've yet to see solid evidence to support the 9/11 conspiracy theories. All there is is speculation
Hi Flatulo
good to be here..
I'm with you on the 9/11 conspiracies. If someone can provide concrete evidence rather than pure specualtion, I could be swayed-otherewise, ive seen nothing that stands as solid proof that 9/11 was an inside job, and much of what has been passed of as 'proof' is easily explained away (Footage of the 'squibs', the nature of the collapse,molten metal, building 7, etc) I'm not saying a 9/11 conspiracy did not happen- I just have yet to see concrete proof that proves without question that it did- and wild specualtion doesn't cut it as evidence.If there was a coverup- THOUSANDS of people would have to be involved. Where is the paper trail?.
I despise Bush-and find him and his cabal truly evil- Yet I have met many people who WANT 9/11 to have been carried out Bush- which I find quite bizzare.
Bush exploited 9/11 to wage war ion Iraq and push the radical right wing agenda, which is a conspiracy unto itself..

Plus there are multiple 9/11 conspiracy theories- there is the theory that suggests that the planes were all controlled by remote control, there is the theory that planes only crashed in NYC, there is the theory that NO planes crashed at all, and all the WTC plane crash footage is fake, the witnesses bought off, etc, etc, etc. Some advocates from one particular conspiracy theory denounce the others as disinformation, and vise verse.

fyi- If any 9/11 Truthers are reading this, please don't attack me personally because I have not been swayed- Cite solid proof, a papertrail, and I may very well join your ranks. I just need proof, not speculation. But keep digging, keep fighting the fight.

For now, peg me with Noam Chomsky, a proud left winger who just doesn't buy that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job.

If solid proof to the contrary ever surfaces, I may have a change of heart..
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:16 PM
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5. more speculations
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:56 PM
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7. peg me with Noam Chomsky,
I heard ya the first time
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:36 PM
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6. inept and bumbling fools?
You must be kidding, right?

Bush Co. has been extraordinarily successful. Shockingly successful.

Look at all they have managed to accomplish since assuming office. And even with a measly 19% approval rating, the Dems are terrified of crossing them.

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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 11:58 AM
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9. I would take exception to your definition of success, Redsock. nt
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Laurier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:40 AM
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8. Yeah,there is no question that the bush admin took full advantage of 9/11
after the fact, and I don't think anyone here questions that.

But, as you correctly pointed out, that's a far cry from bleating about an "inside job". Realistically, if 9/11 was an "inside job", it would have required the involvement of the Bill Clinton administration, and it will take a whole lot more than the blathering of tinhatters on the internet to convince me that he had anything whatsoever to do with it.

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