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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:27 AM
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Alex Jones -- Making money from a hate group
For a mere $1500 per month, you can buy space for a side banner on the main page of Alex Jones' Prison Planet website.

Today on Prison Planet's main page, an advert can be found for 'The Dragon Slayer', advertised as a free newsletter to which one should 'subscribe now!' ...

When the side banner picture link is clicked, the Prison Planet visitor is taken to a page on the website of a church ministry called 'Scriptures for America Worldwide'.

So, just what is Scriptures for America?

Scriptures for America is an extreme right-wing organisation run by self-styled 'Pastor' Pete Peters, a man with a long history of involvement with the 'patriot' movement in America. Peters preaches a form of the racist and anti-Semitic 'Christian Identity' theology. While Scriptures for America now eschews the 'Identity' label, the beliefs remain the same
More: http://alexjonesexposed.blogspot.com/2008/04/alex-jones-making-money-from-hate-group.html

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:33 AM
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1. Unlike GoogleAds, PrisonPlanet appears to deal with their advertisers directly.
So there's no question that Alex and company knows what these people are advertising on their website.

And there's no question that Pastor Pete knows that he's advertising on PrisonPlanet.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:36 AM
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2. My thoughts exactly
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 07:42 AM by salvorhardin
If Jones isn't anti-semitic himself, then this is a real problem for him. He could claim he didn't know what Scriptures For America stood for, refund their money, apologize to his readers and listeners and move on. But I suspect that isn't the tact that Jones will take. Instead, he will likely ignore this because Scriptures For America does accurate reflect his beliefs, and hey, they're paying him, so it's all good.

Oh, and of course, Jones' listeners and readers will continue to defend Jones.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:02 AM
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3. self delete
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:23 AM by seemslikeadream
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:05 AM
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4. This site doesn't AGREE with PrisonPlanet.
It is EXPOSING it as a hate site.

But your words in defense of PrisonPlanet are duly noted.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:06 AM
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5. self delete
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:23 AM by seemslikeadream
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:21 AM
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13. So you think it's morally wrong for Alex Jones to take money from an anti-semitic hate group?
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:25 AM by salvorhardin
Bully for you! We finally agree on something.

On edit: I assume by your self-deletes that you're retracting your claim that I linked to a hate site. Thank you.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:09 AM
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6. self delete
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:24 AM by seemslikeadream




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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:13 AM
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7. What hate site does my OP link to?
Please inform me.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:17 AM
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10. self delete
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:25 AM by seemslikeadream


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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:19 AM
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12. I'm sorry, but I don't see a link to any site in the first sentence of my OP
Pardon me, but I'm confused. Can you please elaborate, because if I'm linking to a hate site, I'd like to know.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:13 AM
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8. Seems, your Caps Lock is On again.
It does so in order to expose it as a hate site, and not to promote it as correct.

There is a difference. You might want to jot that down someplace.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:15 AM
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9. self delete
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:24 AM by seemslikeadream
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:17 AM
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11. Self-delete
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 08:17 AM by salvorhardin
Answered above
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 08:57 PM
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41. PrisonPlanet hates GWB
Edited on Sun May-11-08 09:57 PM by number6
This site doesn't AGREE with PrisonPlanet

does any body expect it too
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:26 AM
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14. Have a nice day
;)
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 08:30 AM
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15. You too slad
Edited on Sat Apr-19-08 09:08 AM by salvorhardin
Enjoy your day. I don't know what the weather is like where you are but it has been glorious here, although it looks like we're in for some April showers today.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:55 AM
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16. Doesn't anyone else besides bolo, myself and I guess seemslikeadream find Jones deplorable...
Doesn't anyone else besides bolo, myself and I guess seemslikeadream find Jones deplorable for brazenly doing business with a far-right anti-semitic hate group?

Knowing that Jones considers hate groups as fellow travelers, is this likely to change your perception of Jones' opinions?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:59 AM
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17. It won't change my opinion at
all. Of course I already know he's a right wing kook.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:16 PM
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18. Of course there are others.
Some of us have had busy days. No, this doesn't change my opinion of Alex - he was an idiot to begin with.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:18 PM
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20. Well, I was speaking more to the CTists who seem to hang on Jones' every word
;-)
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:00 PM
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42. straw man, did u have fun knocking him down
CTists who seem to hang on Jones' every word

who's that
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 09:22 PM
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19. Please do not presume to speak for me sal
I have nothing to say about this subject. The reason I deleted my posts was because I felt they were against DU rules. That is all.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:19 PM
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21. So what do you think about Jones openly taking money from a far right-wing anti-semitic hate group?
Just curious.
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Laurier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 01:32 AM
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24. Despicable.
Equally despicable is the fact that 9/11 conspiracy fantasists will not even acknowledge the obvious.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:51 AM
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27. too bad some people can't think beyond their own noses
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 07:55 AM by seemslikeadream
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 02:45 AM
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25. Totally fucking pathetic journalism.
signed - seemslikeadream.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-21-08 07:51 AM
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26. Totally fucking pathetic journalism.
Edited on Mon Apr-21-08 07:57 AM by seemslikeadream
signed greyl








your posts are getting so old there's cobwebs on them
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-25-08 08:46 PM
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40. Nothing Jones does or says surprises me anymore...
and I'm amazed that he's still viewed as a reputable source by anyone.

Sid
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victordrazen Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 01:53 PM
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22. I'll tell you what's hateful
Blaming 9-11 on Muslims without a proper investigation, that's hateful.
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MarkyX Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-20-08 02:06 PM
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23. Yeah let's just ignore...
- Radio transmission from the cockpits with the Arab terrorists talking to the passengers
- Cell phone calls from the passengers describing arab men
- Airport cameras and staff describing these men
- Videos of Osama Bin Laden with the hijackers
- Last will videos of the hijackers
- Extremist muslims celebrating the attacks
- Interviews with people who have come in contact with the hijackers, such as flight instructors
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Sweet Pea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 11:39 AM
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28. Ouch!
That one'll leave a mark.

Well said!

To quote a heartwarming line http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=199332&mesg_id=199455">from a previous poster, "It would be my honor to share your words.....
and it's MY duty as a US citizen to share with as many people I can."

!!!

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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 01:32 PM
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29. All of the 9/11 Omission Report was just bullcrap
All of the above 'list' was staged or lied about by our US GOVT.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 01:54 PM
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30. So that makes it OK for Alex Jones?
So that makes it OK for Alex Jones to brazenly take money from, and promote, far-right anti-semitic hate groups?
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:10 PM
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44. no, it doesn't
and you still got to prove Alex Jones knowingly took money

and promotes far-right anti-semitic hate groups?

if its what u say it is I hope he removes promptly.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-22-08 04:05 PM
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31. Kick for free energy generators
And far right-wing anti-semites
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:41 PM
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37. free energy generators...
hehehe :rofl:

Sid
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:03 PM
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43. damn right
nt
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:46 PM
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32. Its just Tera Tera Tera, now the NY cops are toting fucking machine guns!
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 01:46 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3201912


Its just Tera Tera Tera, now the NY cops are toting fucking machine guns!
Posted by Union Label on Thu Apr-24-08 01:42 PM

This kind of extreme fascist shit is scaring the crap out of me! :scared: I wonder if any Holocaust survivors are getting flashbacks with the Soldoten on patrol?

M4 Carbine Rifles, MP5 Submachine Guns & Bomb Sniffing Dogs Part Of New "Torch Team" Anti-Terror Efforts

NEW YORK (CBS) ― More protection against terrorists is coming to a subway station near you. Starting Thursday, special bomb teams, known as "Torch Teams," will be toting submachine guns and bringing bomb-sniffing dogs onto the platforms and into the trains. CBS 2 HD was out first thing Thursday morning on the lookout for these significant security measure improvements.

It's a first for mass transit in the United States. NYPD officers, armed with rifles, submachine guns, body armor and bomb-sniffing dogs will begin patrolling the city's subway system thanks to a 50 percent increase in a homeland security grant. http://wcbstv.com/local/machine.guns.subway.2.707398.html
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:50 PM
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33. Taken your "what does this have to do with the OP" hat off? n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 01:55 PM
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34. It has something to do with the OP
Edited on Thu Apr-24-08 01:59 PM by seemslikeadream
that's for sure, take it or leave it :shrug:


but BTW are you saying you are the only one that can do that?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:06 PM
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35. It's written in English? n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 02:40 PM
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36. 'Cause it don't look like they're here to deliver the mail

Shelter me from the powder and the finger Cover me with the thought that pulled the trigger


there's a white boat
comin' up the river
With a big red beacon,
and a flag,
and a man on the rail
I think you'd better call John,
'Cause it don't
look like they're here
to deliver the mail
And it's less than a mile away
I hope they didn't come to stay
It's got numbers on the side
and a gun
And it's makin' big waves.

Daddy's gone,
my brother's out hunting
in the mountains
Big John's been drinking
since the river took Emmy-Lou
So the powers that be
left me here
to do all the thinkin'
And I just turned twenty-two
I was wonderin' what to do
And the closer they got,
The more those feelings grew.

Daddy's rifle in my arms
felt reassurin'
He told me,
Red means run, son,
numbers add up to nothin'
But when the first shot
hit the docks I saw it comin'
Raised my rifle to my eye
Never stopped to wonder why.
Then I saw black,
And my face flashed in the sky.

Shelter me from the powder
and the finger
Cover me with the thought
that pulled the trigger
Think of me
as one you'd never figured
Would fade away so young
With so much left undone
Remember me to my love,
I know I'll miss her.

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biermeister Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:46 PM
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38. for what it's worth
I work in Manhattan and I see cops with M4's or MP5's from time to time on the street. I also see cops patrolling with soldiers or soldiers patrolling alone in Grand Central and Penn Station. I don't feel any safer, in fact I feel pretty sad.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-24-08 04:51 PM
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39. Thanks biermeister
I'm wondering how many deaths occur from tazing these days?
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 09:55 PM
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45. well I've taken a look at The Dragon Slayer web site
looks like a Christian Fundy, end times, rightwing deal
somthing I'm not interested in, doesn't say much about Jews though

well I'm off to read Killtown and Prison Planet

"Jason Bermas of Loose Change fame fills in for Alex and welcomes author and lecturer Jim Marrs to discuss the fallacy of the war on terror, the primary smoking guns of the 9/11 conspiracy, how disinformation threatens to poison the truth movement and much more"

lots of Bush bashing and poo pooing the war on terror,...what hate, indeed it is a hate site.

they Hate Bush
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