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John Doe II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:09 PM
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Flight 93: Not a scheduled Recurring Flight?
"ThoughtCrimeNews.com has learned through a search of the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS) databases that United Flight 93, as we have been given to understand it, flew for the first time on 11th September 2001."

http://www.thoughtcrimenews.com/flight93notscheduled.htm
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:16 PM
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1. That doesn't mean anything. Arlines change schedules all the time.
If yu remember, back then, there was a very high demand for additional flights, and all airlines were trying to accomodate their customers.
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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:26 PM
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2. Additional flights?
Weren't there about 90 people on a 350 person airplane? I always found that odd.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:28 PM
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4. Ever fly at the crack of dawn?
I used to try to get those flights all the time since they were usually uncrowded.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:32 PM
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5. Naw, nont unusual at all.
My son works for one of the major airlines, and as his parent, I have 8 free flights each year, strictly on standby of course. I used to be able to take a flight almost anywhere and anytime of the day. That's was because of excess capacity. The biggest concern then was if we would be lucky enough to get availability in 1st class.

Those days are long gone! Now, it's almost impossible to get available space on any flights. The only way to get sort of lucky is to try for flights at really weird times when no one else wants to fly.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:27 PM
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3. Shhhh! Don't disturb the creases on the tinfoil beanies!
Oh, I'm in the LIHOP camp. I think they knew something like it was coming, and may have known the time period down to the day (although probably not). I doubt they knew the scale or the specific targets.

However, they ignored all the warnings about bin Laden's trainees and simply let it happen, and that's enough of an appalling conspiracy for me.
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John Doe II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-04 02:35 PM
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6. Globalfreepress follow up article
"If Flight 93 was a brandnew scheduled flight, how did the alleged "hijacker team" know about it in time?
If most passengers came from Flight 91, shouldn't the passenger list made public for the investigation?
Was Ziad Jarrah on the passenger list of Flight 91?
The FBI claimed, his visa was found in the remains of Flight 93.
What about Ahmad Ibrahim A. Al Haznawi, Saeed Alghamdi and Ahmed Alnami?
Did they book on Flight 91, Flight 93 or both flights?
What about the most disturbing questions: Was Flight 93 (originally Flight 0507) part of a military terror drill?
Why was another plane still in the air, after Sep11th, with the same tail number N591UA?
Why did Flight 0507 (until Sep 10th) coincidentally turn into Flight 175 on Sep11th, and more odd, changed its transponder code to flight 93?"


http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=870

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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 03:24 AM
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7. good work JD II
and for other DU'ers visiting the real underground for the first time, try please a little in-depth analytical thinking and investigation on your own before you dismiss ideas that clash with your world view out of hand. Everything re 9/11 is still a 'conspiracy THEORY', unless you believe THIS Govt has told you the truth.
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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 05:14 AM
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8. That is not correct.
According to the BTS database Flight 93 flew for the first time from Newark on September 5th 2001. September 11th was not the first instance. It then flew every day at the same time, 8,00 am.

This is the BTS Scheduled Departure Data for September:

UA 09/01/2001 0093 N412UA SFO 17:00
UA 09/02/2001 0093 N438UA SFO 17:00
UA 09/03/2001 0093 N449UA SFO 17:00
UA 09/04/2001 0093 N471UA SFO 17:00
UA 09/05/2001 0093 N521UA SFO 8:00
UA 09/06/2001 0093 N553UA SFO 8:00
UA 09/07/2001 0093 N513UA SFO 8:00
UA 09/08/2001 0093 N544UA SFO 8:00
UA 09/09/2001 0093 N517UA SFO 8:00
UA 09/10/2001 0093 N570UA SFO 8:00

Before September 5th 2001 "Flight 93" had flown from Philadelphia, also to San Francisco but at 17:00.

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John Doe II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 05:42 AM
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9. Thanks!
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 05:49 AM by John Doe II
Thanks for the clarification.
I posted this article because I think it's worth discussing.
Here the author's update on this:

"Update - 13th October 04 - ThoughtCrimeNews has now learned that Flight 93 began as a scheduled service from EWR to SFO on September 5th 2001, but the first Tuesday flight was indeed on 9-11. The story has not been changed to reflect this; instead this update has been posted. This information was not forthcoming until after the original story had been posted"
http://www.thoughtcrimenews.com/

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