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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:03 AM
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Get your tinfoil on. Pentagon impact questions from 9/11
Ok, it's late, and I just got this in my email. Maybe it's already old. I had never seen it before. Even as an engineer, I just dismissed the theory that something other than the aledged 575, rammed into the Pentagon. And I"m not much of a tinfoiler. But having just watched this flash movie, I have to say I'm again wondering what happened. I think if you watch the whole thing, you'll see the part that really really has me wondering- several layers of Pentagon wall that were reinforced concrete, that had neatly severed holes. Well, you check it out....

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:07 AM
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1. Get ready to be pounced. I think this has been quite debunked.
Though when I saw it I was ready to join X files junior scouts of america.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:07 AM
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2. The neatly severed holes are easily explained...
as the plane was crashing the terrorists cut through the layers in the Pentagon with their boxcutters. I believe that's somewhere in the back of the 9/11 report. :)
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:08 AM
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3. You're an engineer?
You're joking. Are you one of those "alternative engineers?"
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:27 AM
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10. Must be one of those
google engineers.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:12 AM
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4. Interesting.
Nicely done, too.

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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:15 AM
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5. Get this DVD...
http://www.policestate21.com/

watch it, then make up your own mind.

I did. No Boeing.
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:16 AM
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6. Thanks . . .
. . . for the link. Someone did a good job putting that together and compressing it to stream so fast. It says it all.

TYY
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RH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 09:37 AM
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7. Maybe it's already old?
Older than that.

:eyes:

:boring:

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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 09:47 AM
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8. OK, one more time for the three people on the planet who've missed it:
http://www.pubs.asce.org/ceonline/ceonline03/0203feat.html

Look here. It provides answers to most of the "questions" posed by the video.

It has the added benefit of being written by professional civil engineers who directly examined the site rather than a propogandist who saw a few pictures on the internet.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:19 AM
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9. Please, skeptics and newbies who've just fallen down the stairs,
go right away to the cited report and when you find conclusive proof let us know. Re (a few???) photos on the internet, see the DOD site for 9/11 and ask what's missing-then Google 'Killtown'
Btw, the ASCE study is ON THE INTERNET TOO! :tinfoilhat:
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:36 AM
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11. The report speaks for itself. It's the only report based on direct
observation and the only report written by professional civil engineers.

Disagree with the conclusions? Bring me a report written by somebody who actually examined the site who has professional qualifications. I'll reexamine my views.

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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:42 AM
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12. Please to point out, show us where
any part of the report proves that a Boeing hit the Pentagon.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 11:49 AM
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13. I never claimed that the ASCE report proved that.
It does, however, refute those who claim that it's impossible that a 757 caused the damage sustained by the Pentagon.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:25 PM
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14. Impossible?
No one says it was impossible that a 757 caused the damage.

All your cherished report claims is a "Rationalization" of the damage seen at the pentagon if indeed a 757 had hit it.

It does not refute anything. In fact, if you read it you have to wonder about the scientific validity of their "Rationalization".

It is possible that a 757 hit the pentagon, but there is not enough evidence to turn that possibility into a conclusion.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:28 PM
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15. missed the point, Mercute.
A 757, 100 drunken college students, a swarm of locusts, a low yield nuke, even a sudden glimpse of the Neo-Con's loving faces MIGHT have caused the damage. We want to know where is the PROOF, in any official report, that a Boeing HIT the Pentagon, (whether or not it entered thru an 18ft wide ground floor window. engines and wings combed back nicely, pierced three rings and six walls and finally melted into the ether, like you and some other professionals would have us believe.) That's what the ASCE report don't know nothing about.
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tngledwebb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 12:28 PM
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16. The answers to this and other 9/11 mysteries
Edited on Wed Oct-13-04 12:34 PM by tngledwebb
are to be found here and in the DU archives.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-04 01:13 PM
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17. Locking
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