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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 11:18 AM
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Design Life built into Trade Center
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 12:28 PM
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1. and there it is
could withstand multiple hits
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 09:47 PM
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5. ...and now they aren't interested ... and a short time from now they'll be denying
the video exists ... again -- !!

:evilgrin:
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William Seger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 10:40 PM
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6. Groundhog Day 2006 (n/t)
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PatrickSMcNally Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:15 PM
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2. Not part of the construction process
http://www.legacy.com/Sept11/Story.aspx?PersonID=103328&location=1

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Mr. De Martini, an architect, started working at the twin towers when he was hired to assess the damage from the 1993 bombing. He stayed on, becoming the construction manager, the man to see when you wanted to move a wall or rearrange the plumbing. Mr. De Martini's wife, Nicole, also worked in the towers, and their children, Sabrina, 10, and Dominic, 8, could often be seen splashing around in the pool at the complex's Marriott Hotel.

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He was hired by the structural engineering firm Leslie E. Robertson Associates to help with the repairs of the 1993 terrorist bombing at the World Trade Center.
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Frank A. DeMartini was not part of the construction process in the setting up of the Towers and his statement about multiple impacts is just a casual statement tossed out by someone who was not involved in the actual design of the buildings. When you're asked for a source leading to evidence that the buildings were really designed for withstanding multiple impacts what people have in mind are either statements from those actually involved in the construction (e.g. Leslie Robertson) or documentary records of the construction process which indicate something of this sort involved in the modeling of the building. A casual comment tossed out by someone hired 20 years or so after the buildings were set up doesn't meet these requirements.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:43 PM
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3. Wow, I bet he feels foolish. nt
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PatrickSMcNally Donating Member (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 08:46 PM
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4. "The designers say ... towers were designed to withstand MULTIPLE jets hitting them."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x225436#227330

I've taken the exact statement from your post listed above in order to help the comparison. Now let's note here again that DeMartini was not a designer of the World Trade Center. He was hired after the 1993 bombing. Does that better clarify the gap between what you had claimed in the earlier post and what your link indicates? If you had said from the beginning that "a man who was hired two decades after the Towers were built made a casual statement that they should be able to withstand multiple impacts" then I don't think that there would have been so much disagreement. But don't try to make someone who was not a designer of the WTC into one. That's where there's a problem.
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Flatulo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-03-08 11:50 PM
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7. There was absolutely no way, in 1970, to predict what the response
of the WTC towers would have been to even a single airplane strike.

Any engineer who claims to be able to have calculated this is full of shit.

Numberical codes to model complex collisions simply did not exist.
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