Pentagon Strike Video

[Stevendsmith]

What do you make of this?

http://tinyurl.com/4rsn2

[SaveElmer]

1. Gawd not again...this is crap!!!

So where did all the passengers on that plane go ? Were their families a party to some massive conspiracy?!

[Stevendsmith]

3. It probably is crap

but they are not disputing that the plane blew up. They are saying that it was not what hit the Pentagon.

[John Doe II]

4. Not that simple

I'm very sceptical about the missile theory etc.
But the argument where did the passengers go etc doesn't refute anything. Just have a look at Operation Northwood in 1962. It was planed to fake shoot down of an airplane full of US students. So in general an operation seemed realizable for the Lemnitzer. So certainly to day it would be realizable as well. This is not a proof for anyting save simply to say "But where are the passengers" doesn't refute anything.

[vincent_vega_lives]

7. Northwood

A plan dreamed up and dismissed as ridiculous.

BTW I just read the document regarding this operation...and nowhere does it have ANYONE being hurt or killed.

8. It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate
convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down
a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to
Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would
be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba.
The passengers could be a group of college students off on a
holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to
support chartering a non-scheduled flight.

a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and
numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered
aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the
Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be
subsituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be
loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under
carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered
aircraft would be converted to a drone.

b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual
aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of
Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying
aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly
into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will
have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the
aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft
meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When
over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the inter-
national distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he
is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission
will be interrupted by the destruction of aircraft which will
be triggered by radio signal. This will allow IACO radio

Appendix to
Enclosure A
10

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stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what
has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to
"sell" the incident.

[John Doe II]

9. Ridiculous

Again it's daring the plan was dismissed as ridiculous. Lemnitzer himself signed it. And I think the guy quite certainly knew what's possible and what's not.
Nowhere it does say womebody will be hurt. But like in the Pentagon case (if it didn't hit the Pentagon where is the airplane and where are the passengers then??): The same question would arrive during Operation Northwood. Unfortunately they don't give any infos how they planed it in detail. But there is not a huge choice: either all US-students are hired by CIA or ...

[PerpetualYnquisitive]

15. I'll have to disagree with your assessment.

From page 8 of Operation Northwoods.

4. We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington. (how do you terrify people without harming/killing someone? BTW, harm comes in more than just the physical form)

The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. We could sink a boatload of Cubans en-route to Florida (real or simulated). We could foster attempts on lives of Cuban refugees in the United States even to the extent of wounding in instances to be widely publicized. (nope no harming/killing of any persons is possible in this plan)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/

Pdf of Northwoods at bottom of page.

[SaveElmer]

8. Again I ask what happened to the passengers and the plane

There is no dispute that flight was hijacked. Passenegrs from that flight made a number phone calls. If the plane did not hit the Pentagon, where is that plane, and where are those passengers. Are you gonna tell me that Ted Olsen willingly sacrificed up his wife for a stunt like this ? Or is she in on it and now hiding in an undisclosed location ?

Also, I have a friend who saw the plane flying low heading in that direction...a few minutes later the strike occurred. It was a 757.

[DulceDecorum]

20. What wife?

When did they get married?
And did Barby the Harpy ever bother to divorce her first husband?

Ted Olson has a habit of losing close family members under highly mysterious circumstances involving cell phone calls.

Besides which,
how does one hijack a plane that was never scheduled
and never departed
when one never boarded the plane
never had a seat-assignment
never had Lotfi Raissi as a flight teacher
had as many faces as Eve
and as many personalities as Sybil
and left nothing but some weirdo DNA
that may or may not have been placed in a vault at Arlington?

As for those very special gatherings in "undisclosed locations"
you need a to be a very special person
on a very special guest list
before you can get a very special invitation
from a very special man.

[tridim]

2. I can make a hat,

a broach, and a little pterodactyl..

Seriously though, I've yet to see anyone refute the facts in that video. IMO it's smoking gun evidence that something other than a plane hit the Pentagon. Of course you and I will be attacked for believing the BFEE would possibly mislead us.

[vincent_vega_lives]

5. Good production value.

But It was all gone over and over here years ago.

Some great pics posted HERE that are NOT shown in that video...that would nullify it's impact. Would love to have saved them...Anablep where are you?

[Village Idiot]

6. I've seen the pics of the interior

of the Pentagon just after the alleged airplane (cruise missle) hit - there's nothing in them that shows that it was an airplane, period. The hole is just too darn small, there is no other wreckage, no explanation on how an untrained pilot (if there was one) could bring a plane down two feet off the ground, etc., etc., etc...

The real smoking gun is the response time for scrambling the fighters, why there weren't more on duty, why vital air traffic control evidence tapes were ordered destroyed, where the black boxes are, what they contained, what were the "drills" the ATC agents were talking about, etc., etc., etc...

There is a limit to how much "circumstantial" evidence you can see before it reaches beyond the circumstances into the surreal.

[vincent_vega_lives]

11. Simply not true

You've seen THE pics of the interior of the Pentagon...all of them really? I've seen plenty of evidence of an aircraft, some that correspond with a 757.

BTW not seen any pics with "cruise missile" parts either.

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[qb]

10. Cool video, awesome music, compelling arguments.

But it's so bizarre. I don't know what to believe.

Playing devil's advocate with the "where did the 757 go?" argument: The planners of this deception wanted to stay with the hijacker theme but saw logistical problems with actually crashing a 757 into the Pentagon, so they sent the 757 to the bottom of the Atlantic and crashed something smaller into the Pentagon.

[vincent_vega_lives]

12. Smaller?

The hole is coincidently EXACTLY the same size as a 757 fuselage. 12' in diameter...fancy that, and aprox 20' feet off the ground...huh...and the width of the wing dammage is about 100', and to a height of 10' just enough to encompass the part of the wing that contained fuel...AND the part of the Pentagon that collapsed...was 80' across, which is coincidently the distance between the two wing mounted engines...fancy that.

[DulceDecorum]

19. We cannot see that.

It must have something to do with the fact that we do not inhale.

I can't imagine how YOU can see it.
Have you been eating pretzels?

[WoodrowFan]

13. it's TOTAL BS

geeze, how mnay times does this piece of crap have to be debunked.


-- there are hundreds of eyewitnesses, several Duers KNOW eyewittneses.

-- the pieces of the plane were found.

-- the remains of the passangers were identified.

-- the hole is MUCH larger than that lying video claims and the fallen telephone poles on the flight path to the Pentagon match perfectly with what the eyewitnesses said they saw, an Americaa Airlines 757 crashing into the Pentagon.


Cripes people, get a friggin clue!

[DulceDecorum]

18. WHO here knows an actual eyewitness

to anything that happened on September 11, 2001?

Rewards have been posted,
cash has been offered if eyewitness stories are found to check out.
To the best of my knowledge
NO-ONE has yet come forward.

Go on, WoodrowFan
tell us who these people are.

And then
perhaps you can explain
how the low VOC lime-green primer
which was qualified in 2000
found its way onto the parts of a plane that was built in 1991.

Or how it is that several of the passengers
have NOT YET been reported to the Social Security Administration
as dead.

Or maybe you can give us more detailed directions as how to
believe in what you say
despite the all the evidence placed before
our lying eyes.

[MrSammo1]

16. keep thinking!

as critically as you can.

[DulceDecorum]

17. May we have a moment of silence, please.

The story of the Incredible Penta-Boeing
has met the same fate
as the Illustrious Humpty Dumpty.

[Lithos]

21. Locking - Duplicate

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