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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:11 PM
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Towering inferno in Caracas still standing
730' skyscraper in Venezuela still standing after 17 hour inferno

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/18/world/main649824.shtml
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drunkdriver-in-chief Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:15 PM
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1. About the same height as WTC7
And all Seven had were dinky little fires but DOWN IT CAME like a perfect demolition job just a few hours later !!!
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NecessaryOnslaught Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:38 PM
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5. Must be faulty engineering
we all know that steel framed skyscrapers are designed to fall into a neat pile when they catch fire.:crazy:
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:16 PM
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2. The demolition's in the details

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:19 PM
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3. good 'un.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:29 PM
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4. Pics


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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:41 PM
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6. The structural steel must hate us for our freedoms
Those are clearly inferior non-terrist flames
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drdtroit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:25 AM
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13. I think it must be "friendly fire" n/t
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:54 PM
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7. Now you go to the same NIST scientists and engineers to come
up with reasons why this one is standing.They will produce a report that contradicts everything they said in their WTC report.This is what happens when you work for the government!
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 09:59 PM
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8. What? No Dynamite planted in the basement?
They need to get with the program. Buildings fall better when they're blown up.

Do they know how this fire started? Were WE involved? Please say no.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:49 PM
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9. Larry Silverstein was unavailable for comment.
Though I think we know what he would have said.



By the way, has anyone seen this, and does anyone know what to make of it:

...the Chinese Companies in WTC tower that specialized in "Spray o要 Demolition Explosives" --called "Slurry Explosives" ..a company that also specialized in high rise demolition ...and it's connection with the company o要 the same floor that specialized in "high rise" fire extinguishing products which happens to have a secret formula that is highly effective to put out Jet Fuel o要 contact.

How fascinating that would be...the "airplanes hit"...the "sprinkle heads start to sprinkler a very foul smelling liquid.." according to some survivors? The jet fuel NEVER caught hold. The fire was from another source. Other explosions were detonated. Then the "slurry" explosives that were used to cover the interior girders of the building instead of the "spray o要 fire-proofing" that was contracted for by the Port Authority. Otherwise, what a silly coincidence for a "Chinese" company that just happens to install both "anti-jet fuel" spray o要 fireproofing and "spray o要 explosives for high rise demolition."

The company was working on the developement of remote control aircraft and on Sept 6th I recieved word that some of my people may have been released from China to work on a change over of ATC Radar. I was told they had been contacted to be in a work detail in the WTC which was being renovated.


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NecessaryOnslaught Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 11:27 PM
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11. Interesting..
don't know about the spray on explosives but the WTC elevator system was undergoing renovation. This type of elevator access would certainly give access to the core columns.

http://www.elevator-world.com/magazine/pdf/0103-002.pdf

"ACE Elevator Co. provided elevator maintenance for the WTC. They were in the middle of a modernization project and were working out of an office located on the 35th floor in the south tower when the tragedy occurred. ACE reported that all of their employees are safe and accounted for."
http://www.elevator-world.com/magazine/archive01/0111-005.html-ssi

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-04 10:54 PM
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10. Amazing
Still standing? Mmm.

Didn't they say earlier that they thought it would collapse soon? I better stop holding my breath.

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NecessaryOnslaught Donating Member (691 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 12:00 AM
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12. Fire started in government office
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 12:04 AM by NecessaryOnslaught
ARACAS - A huge fire ripped through more than 16 floors of Venezuela's highest tower, in a Caracas complex housing dozens of Government ministries and state agencies, but there were no casualties, officials said.

Clouds of thick smoke and flames engulfed the upper half of the 56-floor East Tower of the Parque Central block. The fire ignited around midnight on Saturday in the 34th-floor offices belonging to the Ministry of Infrastructure.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3601749&thesection=news&thesubsection=world

A prelude to a coup?
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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:03 AM
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14. Certainly possible, I had the same thought about a coup
Amazing - NO casualties. None. Hmmm.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:20 AM
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15. Well, I doubt Chavez was reading 'My Pet Goat' when it happened...
...And they probably decided to evacuate everyone out of the building right away, too.

Sounds like everything went right, at least as far as the evacuations go.

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k-robjoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:22 PM
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16. Just another pic

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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 03:38 PM
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17. Even more visual confirmation that WTC7 is proof of MIHOP.
A 17 hour inferno and it's STILL STANDING? And after 8 hours, WTC7 just falls, if you believe the 9/11 Commission.

I don't smell jetfuel, I smell BULLSHIT!!!
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:49 AM
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18. Locking - Duplicate
Please continue here

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