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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:53 PM
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2/18/97: Department of Defense Directive
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 02:32 PM by stickdog
This directive was in full force on 9/11.

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/d302515_021897/d302515p.pdf

4.7.5. Support for Domestic Counterterrorism Operations. The employment
of U.S. military forces in response to acts or threats of domestic terrorism may be
requested only by the President
(or in accordance with Presidential Decision
Directives) and must be authorized by the President. All requests for assistance in
responding to acts or threats of domestic terrorism must also be approved by the
Secretary of Defense.


4.7.5.1. Informal action on counterterrorist support requests shall
normally be requested by contacting the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special
Operations and Low Intensity Conflict
(ASD(SO/LIC)), who shall review such requests
or actions from a policy perspective. Following the policy review, the informal request
will be passed to the Joint Staff for operational analysis. Any requests requiring
consequence management preparation shall be coordinated between the Joint Staff and
DOMS staff.

4.7.5.2. When a formal or informal request for support is made, or the
ASD(SO/LIC) determines that such a request is imminent, the ASD(SO/LIC) shall
establish a Crisis Coordination Group (consisting of, at a minimum, representatives from
the Office of the ASD(SO/LIC)
, Office of the Under Secretary of Defense
(Comptroller) (USD(C)), Department of the Army, Joint Staff, and the office of the GC,
DoD, to coordinate and integrate all aspects of the DoD response actions. Before
submission of a request to the Secretary of Defense for approval, all crisis management
requests shall be coordinated by the ASD(SO/LIC) with the GC, DoD and the USD(C),
and shall be submitted to the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy (USD(P)) for a
policy review.

4.7.5.3. The Secretary of Defense shall manage the Department of
Defense's response to any acts or threats of terrorism.



Please note that the critical poistion of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low Intensity Conflict was left vacant for the first 3 years Bush held office:

http://www.afio.com/sections/wins/2003/2003-39.html

DEFENSE SPECIAL OPERATIONS AND INTELLIGENCE -- A reception was held last week for the newly appointed Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict (ASD/SOLIC), Thomas W. O'Connell, who is a former CIA officer and commando as well as a former Deputy Director of US Special Operations Command (USSOCOM). The OSD position oversees special operations policy and budget matters. The position has been open for the past three years, apparently caught up in competing perspectives on special operations between the White House staff and Defense. The White House reportedly tried to consolidate special operations policy with the new Homeland Security Department, but it apparently did not prevail. The first nominee was subsequently withdrawn, and Thomas O'Connell was nominated after a long delay.


http://www.afio.com/sections/wins/2003/2003-39.html
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 01:58 PM
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1. Goodbye Posse Comitatus . . .
. . . and hail the Emperor Shrub.
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John Doe II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:08 PM
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2. Donald?
Donald where are you?
Donald?
Donald!!
Well, yes I know he entered finally the NMCC at 10:30.
And Wolfowitz said that there was nothing to do on 911.
And not single question by the Commission to Rummy about his absence on 911.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 02:30 PM
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3. And terrorism was such a "priority" that the critical ASD(SO/LIC) position
was left vacant for the first 3 years Bush held office.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:44 PM
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13. Donald is about to be fired.
The Sorcerer needs a new Apprentice.

Incidentally,
did Omarosa Rice perform any acts of value on that day?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 03:20 PM
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4. Two questions
1. This directive was issued in 1997. Why is this evidence of a 9/11 coverup by Bushco? Assuming that is the main purpose you posted this.

2. Have subsequent directives changed any of the above?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:50 PM
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6. Why are you ASSuming?
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 06:13 PM by stickdog
4.7.5.1. Informal action on counterterrorist support requests shall
normally be requested by contacting the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special
Operations and Low Intensity Conflict (ASD(SO/LIC)) {POSITION VACANT ON 9/11/01}, who shall review such requests
or actions from a policy perspective. Following the policy review, the informal request
will be passed to the Joint Staff for operational analysis. Any requests requiring
consequence management preparation shall be coordinated between the Joint Staff and
DOMS staff.

4.7.5.2. When a formal or informal request for support is made, or the
ASD(SO/LIC) determines that such a request is imminent, the ASD(SO/LIC) shall
establish a Crisis Coordination Group (consisting of, at a minimum, representatives from
the Office of the ASD(SO/LIC) {POSITION VACANT ON 9/11/01}, Office of the Under Secretary of Defense
(Comptroller) (USD(C)) {POSITION HELD BY DOV ZACKHEIM ON 9/11/01},
Department of the Army {ENRON'S THOMAS WHITE CONFIRMED AS SECRETARY OF THE ARMY ON 5/24/01},
Joint Staff {GEN. RICHARD MYERS WAS "ACTING" HEAD OF JCS ON 9/11/01 - GEN. HUGH SHELTON OUTGOING},
and the office of the GC, DoD {GENERAL DYNAMICS' WILLIAM J. (JIM) HAYNES II CONFIRMED ON 5/17/01}
to coordinate and integrate all aspects of the DoD response actions. Before
submission of a request to the Secretary of Defense for approval, all crisis management
requests shall be coordinated by the ASD(SO/LIC) with the GC, DoD and the USD(C),
and shall be submitted to the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy (USD(P)) {POSITION HELD BY DOUG FEITH ON 9/11/01} for a
policy review.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:25 PM
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7. If I understand this correctly
a coverup in indicated because the some position were not filled on 9/11?

Have you every worked at a place that has an emergency response plan?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:45 PM
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9. From the 9/11 Commission's Report
http://911.gnu-designs.com/Chapter_6.5.html

Brian Sheridan--the outgoing assistant secretary of defense for special operations and low-intensity conflict (SOLIC), the key counterterrorism policy office in the Pentagon--never briefed Rumsfeld. He departed on January 20; he had not been replaced by 9/11.


*****


This is the guy who was supposed to be in charge of any military response to domestic terrorism. He never briefed the SECDEF and the position remained unfilled for nearly three years.

Are you actually DEFENDING this record?

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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:42 PM
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11. I'm not defending anything
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 07:57 PM by LARED
I simply asked if an an unfilled position on 9/11 indicates a conspiracy in your view.

BTW, I asked if you had an emergency response plan (ERP)at your employment for a reason. Most are filled with prescriptive procedures that are used as guidelines. During real emergencies, not many folks look at the procedures to see who or what needs to be done. The ERP at work is about 500 pagers long, and other than the first 5 or so pages listing contact, is largely useless in a real emergency.

The reason I brought this up is that I suspect that if you analyzed all the directives and procedures that should have been followed on 9/11, you would find that in the end people just did the best they could in a very bad situation on 9/11. It's way too easy to be critical (or even act as if it would have made a difference) if all the procedures and protocols were followed that day.

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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:51 AM
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12. You see "conspiracies" everywhere, don't you?
About the "ERP" for a domestic hijacking, the DOD thought enough about it to issue a (short) new set of instructions about it less than four months before 9/11. And all of these directives combined are about 30 pages total.

But please, keep seeing "conspiracies" everywhere, and keep comparing apples to watermelons. I guess when that's all you got, that's what you've got to go with.

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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 07:07 PM
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10. General Myers on pre-9/11 anti-terror exercises.
http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing12/myers_statement.pdf

Another exercise scheduled for November 2001 portrayed a terrorist threat
to the Pentagon requiring evacuation of the facility and conducting
operations from a relocation site. Additionally, Assistant Secretary of
Defense Special Operations/Low Intensity Conflict has sponsored a series
of tabletop-seminar exercises since 1992, focused on the coordinated
interagency response to terrorist threats, including domestic scenarios.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 05:30 PM
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5. 5/8/01: RUMSFELD ANNOUNCES MAJOR NAT. SECURITY ORGANIZATIONAL INITIATIVE
http://www.defenselink.mil/releases/2001/b05082001_bt201-01.html

...

"The Secretary of the Air Force will be directed to assign responsibility for the Command of Air Force Space Command to a four-star officer other than the Commander in Chief of U.S. Space Command (CINCSPACE) and the Commander in Chief of North American Aerospace Defense Command (CINCNORAD).

"The practice of assigning only flight-rated officers to the positions of CINCSPACE and CINCNORAD will be discontinued to ensure that an officer of any Service with an understanding of space and combat operations could be assigned to the position.

...

"The Under Secretary of the Air Force will be assigned as the Director of the NRO, designated the Air Force Acquisition Executive for Space, and delegated Milestone Decision Authority for defense space programs through the Secretary of the Air Force. This will align Air Force and NRO programs and permit both organizations to use each other's "best practices." The National Security Space Architect (NSSA) will be realigned to report to the Under Secretary of the Air Force and Director of the NRO.

...

"The Under Secretary of Defense Comptroller/Chief Financial Officer will be directed to establish a space program, budget, and accounting mechanism to increase visibility into the resources allocated for space activities.

"Finally, I have decided not to request legislation to establish an Under Secretary of Defense for Space, Intelligence, and Information. I have asked staff to review the responsibilities and functions of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Command, Control, Communications and Intelligence and provide me with recommendations for ensuring appropriate senior-level policy, guidance, oversight, and advocacy for space, intelligence and information activities."
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 06:33 PM
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8. Chairman of the JCOS General Hugh Shelton's 9/11 mythology.
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 06:45 PM by stickdog
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:PtmWwXQXvukJ:www.loper.org/~george/archives/2003/Oct/937.html

Shelton was on a 757 en route to Budapest for a conference when he learned that a plane had crashed into the World Trade Center. Knowing that New York had perfect weather and there were no computer problems, he determined that it was a terrorist attack and immediately turned the plane around.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:46 PM
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14. kick
:kick:
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 08:48 PM
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15. bump
:kick: very least bu$hkkko incompetence at work
if not LIHOP or MIHOP
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