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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 11:26 AM
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9/11 Commission Memoranda for the Record (MFRs) WIlliam Rodriguez

http://www.911blogger.com/node/19439

http://www.911podcasts.com/files/documents/Rodriguez.pdf
http://www.911podcasts.com/files/documents/Rodriguez-2.pdf


Are those real documents ? How can Rodriguez get those documents when they are restricted?

The date is from 2004-06-08, but there are no MFR's from this date on the archives page.
http://www.archives.gov/legislative/research/9-11/commission-memoranda.html

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Theobald Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:24 PM
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1. So I read the affadavit by Rodriquez
and I don't understand. What is the issue here. He was in the basement of the North Tower. Heard an explosion, heard another explosion, saw a guy on fire, heard another expolosion, helped the firefighters in the building and escaped alive.

What is the point of this posting?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 12:59 PM
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2. That is exactly what I want to know
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 12:59 PM by seemslikeadream
what is the point of your post? I don't understand
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Theobald Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:09 PM
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3. I have never heard of any controversy
surrounding William Rodriguez or his testimony, so my question is what is the issue here and what is the point of the posting?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 01:56 PM
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4. Rodriguez has been telling a different story recently
It seems that Rodriguez knows that the explosions were happening before the plane hit the building. How, you might ask, since Rodriguez was in the basement and hasn't demonstrating being able to see through walls before or since? Well, that's one for Rodriguez to answer.

Rodriguez is notable because his story has taken on additional detail over time, and some might even say it contradicts what he said in these affidavits (and what he told the 9/11 Commission). He was all the rage for a while but the inevitable ego struggles and resource wars in the 9/11 Truth Movement led to his eventual disgrace among a sizable portion (as I understand it). He has his defenders and he has his detractors. The OP gives us more evidence of how simple his story used to be.

It's sad because Rodriguez is a genuine hero of the day. He almost didn't make it out of the building because he was trying to help people get out.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 04:09 PM
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6. I think by now everybody in the world has heard of him,
Edited on Fri Feb-27-09 04:09 PM by jakeXT
and I didn't want to focus on his story so much.

I wanted to know where he got this MFR, and I believe he belonged to the Port Authority so he should be listed on this page like this:


First Responder Port Authority of New York and New Jersey 2004-06-08

http://www.archives.gov/legislative/research/9-11/commission-memoranda.html


But there is no entry for this date, either they made a mistake and somehow got the date wrong, because on the pdf by Rodriguez it's June 8th 2004.
Or not every interview is listed on the archive page, or something isn't right with the pdf.


And I don't understand why all interviews by police, FDNY and port authority are withheld.


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Theobald Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-09 03:08 PM
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5. I know that you are chomping at the bit to answer my
questions, but I just couldn't wait so I decided to do a little research and eventually saw the video on your link that has a 50 minute speech by William Rodriguez http://www.911blogger.com/node/19439.

William's actions on 9/11 make him a true hero and listening to his speech he sounds like a sane, sober, and honest individual. I will stipulate that Mr. Rodriquez believes what he says, but I have trouble accepting his conclusions and at least one of his statements of fact.

We'll start with the statement of fact. He says that it was necessary to unlock the doors on 3 out of every four floors because it was a class A building and the doors were locked. I was under the impression that you can block access from the stairwell to a floor, but you cannot restrict access from the floor to the stairwell. So, it would have been necessary for him to let the firefighters onto the locked floors, but it wouldn't have been necessary for him to unlock doors to let people out. About 30 minutes in he states "I continue going up, by myself, opening doors, letting people out". Why would he need to let people out when the doors should have opened to the staircase? Can someone enlighten me on this?

Besides that Williams speculation on the cause of the collapse does not seem to be a jumble of different things. He states that the first explosion was actually beneath him, before the plane hit. He speculates that this was done to weeken the structure of the building and he believes that the synchronization of the plane strike and the basement blast were timed incorrectly and that is why there was a delay. So basically he believes that there was to be a coordinated strike on the building of a bomb blast and the plane hitting the tower, but the coordination was off a few seconds. This doesn't make sense to me because if you are going to CD a building (which he believes was done) you don't do preliminary explosions to weeken the building before setting off the rest of the charges.

Later he hears an explosion which he states is the collapse of the first tower and then he heres multiple booms which he believes is his building collapsing from the 65th floor to the 44th floor and this happened while he was on the 39th floor (33.50). We know that the middle section of his tower did not collapse so while he does believe this, we do know it to be false.

I will get to more later.












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