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Artemis Bunyon Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:12 PM
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PLEASE don't fall for the Vreeland Fraud (progressive debunking resource)
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:18 PM
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1. What does the note say EXACTLY that is said to be
a warning about 9/11? Certainly somebody has that note,
yah? What are the exact words that are in that note? If
the note is the cornerstone to this guy's story, let's see
the note, or the words therein. Thanks, somebody.
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Artemis Bunyon Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:20 PM
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3. It was probably written after 9/11.
x
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:25 PM
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6. OK, whenever, but what does it say?
Fraud or not, does anybody have the full contents of the note?
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:20 PM
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2. If you only had a clue!
:evilgrin:
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Artemis Bunyon Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:21 PM
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4. If I only had a clue?
What does that mean? A friend of mine actually interviewed him in Toronto. Vreeland is full of shit.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:19 PM
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10. Being full of shit
doesn't disqualify one from being a intelligence operative. In fact, it's highly valued.

I know, I know; white and black hats would simplify things.

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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:22 PM
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5. Do you have a copy of the 9/11 note, or the words therein?
Thanks.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:38 PM
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7. I just saw the note in one of the loopy threads on this.
As I suspected, it looks like Nostradamus' notes.
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Artemis Bunyon Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 10:38 PM
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8. And again, there is doubt as to when they were written.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 11:12 PM
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9. There is no doubt.
For you, sure. I know.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 04:20 PM
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11. You are not telling the truth
Whenever MB recounts this story, he fails to note that the sealed envelope, which was given to the prison gaurds, and later opened in court, somehow found it's way into the hands of Vreeland's lawyers between the time Vreeland wrote it (reported as in July or Aug of 2001) and the time it was opened in court.

IOW, for a time, the sealed envelope was not secured and someone (maybe Vreeland's lawyers) could have replaced the original note with the note that contained the warning.
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