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Reform Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 06:34 PM
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Referendum For 9/11 Investigation May Now Be on November Ballot In New York!!!
City of New York Concedes 9/11 Coalition
Has 30,000 Valid Signatures To Put
Referendum For 9/11 Investigation on November Ballot

New York – In a last minute decision, lawyers for the City of New York have conceded that the New York City Coalition for Accountability Now (NYC CAN), a group comprising 9/11 family members, first responders and survivors, indeed did submit over 30,000 valid signatures to put the referendum for a new 9/11 investigation before the voters of New York City this November.

Representatives for NYC CAN, 9/11 family member Manny Badillo and Executive Director Ted Walter, arrived at the Board of Elections on the morning of Wednesday, September 9, to assist the court-appointed referee in commencing a line-by-line review of the disputed signatures, only to learn the referee’s review had been called off due to a last minute concession by the City. Mr. Badillo immediately got on the phone to inform others of the news.

“The City conceded we have 30,000 valid signatures. Big victory.”

The City’s concession comes as a result of the immense effort put forth by 50+ volunteers who gave more than 1,000 hours over a two week period from August 10 to August 25 to identify a total of 7,166 signatures that were wrongly invalidated by the NYC City Clerk and Board of Elections. On August 27, NYC CAN filed the 631-page Bill of Particulars cataloguing each of the 7,166 signatures it contended were in fact valid. NYC CAN submitted another 28,000 signatures on September 4 to guarantee the referendum will go on the ballot if they win the court case, bringing the total signatures submitted to 80,000.

NYC CAN must deliver its memorandum of law in response to the City’s motion for summary judgment by Monday, September 21. The City will be given an opportunity to reply before the referee’s decision is made on Monday September 28. Fast-track appeals will likely follow no matter who wins. A final decision will have to be made by September 30.

If the referendum passes in November, it would lead to the creation of a local, independent commission with subpoena power that would be tasked with comprehensively reinvestigating the attacks.

http://nyccan.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjmXm1jGLf4
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-10-09 09:46 PM
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1. How are they overcoming the other material concerns with the referendum?
Concerns that by themselves will keep the measure off the ballot?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:02 AM
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2. Step by step...
...inch by inch.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that NYCCAN will overcome each challenge. My confidence is high and I wish them all the best.

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 12:30 AM
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3. Let's take them one at a time, shall we?
Edited on Fri Sep-11-09 12:51 AM by Bolo Boffin


The first problem is that the petition far exceeds the proper scope and purpose of the petition process of the MHRL, because only the federal government has jurisdiction.

How do you imagine that NYCCAN will overcome this hurdle?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 02:29 AM
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4. I suppose we'll have to see if Clerk McSweeney made
a correct call. I'm guessing that will be taken up in the legality discussions if it hasn't already been dismissed, which I am trying to ascertain. I think still a chance they will overcome the legal obstacles that lie before them. They are determined.

Please, by all means, wish them luck.

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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 03:23 AM
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5. I don't think you understand the magnitude of this obstacle.
Let's read it again.



The city of New York has no power to grant jurisdiction of this investigation to the proposed Commission, because they do not possess such jurisdiction. The only remedy to this obstacle is if the federal government, which does have jurisdiction, would first give it to the city of New York. Until that happens, this referendum is a monumental waste of time and resources because the action it enjoins upon the city of New York cannot be done.

You cannot get there from here. You need more than luck to overcome this obstacle, just like you need more than luck to prove the existence of Santa Claus.

Is that plain enough?
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Ohio Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-11-09 06:31 AM
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6. I don't believe they intend to overcome them
I fully expect when they are told the issue is still not going on the ballot, they will then release another statement and make it sound as though it is a new obstacle to stop them. The idea being to make it sound as though they are being oppressed. The same thing happens here all the time, posts are put in forums they don't belong and when they are moved to the correct forum... up come the cries of censorship and oppression. It is silly, just an effort to have something to point to, that they will claim, shows how the big bad all powerful elites are trying to hide the truth.
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