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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 05:29 PM
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The Bombshell That Was Ignored As It Came Out the Morning of the Virginia Tech Shooting
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/849036.html
Report: France told CIA about plans to hijack planes prior to 9/11

By Reuters

French secret services produced nine reports between September 2000 and August 2001 looking at the Al-Qaida threat to the United States, and knew it planned to hijack an aircraft, the French daily Le Monde said on Monday.

The newspaper said it had obtained 328 pages of classified documents that showed foreign agents had infiltrated Osama bin Laden's network and were carefully tracking its moves. One document prepared in January 2001 was entitled "Plan to hijack an aircraft by Islamic radicals", and said the operation had been discussed in Kabul at the start of 2000 by Al-Qaida, Taliban and Chechen militants. The hijack was meant to happen between March and September 2000 but the planners put it back "because of differences of opinion, particularly over the date, objective and participants," Le Monde said, citing the report.

(snip)

Le Monde said the French report of January 2001 had been handed over to a CIA operative in Paris, but that no mention of it had ever been made in the official U.S. Sept. 11 Commission, which produced its findings in July 2004.
(snip)


The fact is, THE CIA KNEW 9/11 was coming. The whole global intel community knew 9/11 was coming. And they did nothing to stop it.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 05:55 PM
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1. Fascinating...

I recently posted about the German newspaper Die Ziet reporting on the Israeli art students (undercover agents) who were tracking the hijackers. Die Ziet claimed to have gotten its information from French intelligence. The article also claimed that the undercover operation was exposed by Oklahoma-based air force intelligence, presumably before they could draw further conclusive intelligence on the hijackers, although they had shared what information they had with the CIA.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 06:11 PM
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2. K & wish I could recommend. nt
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 10:15 PM
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3. thanks! nt
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travis80 Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-15-09 01:29 PM
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4. so our government knew all along
that doesn't surprise me. now i want to know if there was some sinister ploy about the coincidental timing of the release of this bombshell report being reported on the same day as the worst mass killing by a gunman in US history?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:35 AM
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14. These killings seem to being taken "off the shelf" . . . Manchurian Candidates?
We have a lot of fake stuff going on --

and a lot of stuff happening that is engineered by the right wing --

and/or manipulated by them.

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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 03:30 PM
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5. I notice you left out this rather important paragraph
"The newspaper quoted a former senior official at France's DGSE secret service agency as saying that, although France thought a hijack was being planned, the DGSE did not know that the plot involved flying aircraft into buildings. "You have to remember that a plane hijack (in January 2001) did not have the same significance as it did after Sept. 11. At the time, it implied forcing a plane to land at an airport and undertaking negotiations," said Pierre-Antoine Lorenzi."

So sorry, I'm not seeing a bombshell here. Certainly it shows intelligence services knew there would be a hijacking attempt at some point in the future, but hijacking normally implies just seizing a plane and taking passengers hostage.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 03:43 PM
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6. Why did you leave that part out, Spooked?
Edited on Wed Sep-23-09 03:44 PM by SDuderstadt
More of your typical quote mining?
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 03:56 PM
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7. I thought you were into TV-fakery?
ie. no planes, and thus, by extension, no hijackings either?
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Bassman66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:22 PM
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8. That's known as a slam dunk I think. nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:37 AM
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15. As long as the OCT includes "planes" . . . French info busts it --
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backwoodsbob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 04:58 PM
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9. a friend of mines daughter died at V Tech
do you really want to go there?
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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 06:15 PM
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10. I don't think he was implying anything
He's just speculating that it was buried under bad news.
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vincent_vega_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:45 AM
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16. knowing how spooked's mind works
im positive he considers the vtech shooting as a part of the conspiracy to bury this story.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:53 PM
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20. But the story supports the OCT

So why would "they" try to bury it?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-23-09 11:50 PM
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11. So you are saying that French intel was faked, to make it look like planes were used?

Spooked, can you fit this into your contention that no planes were used?

Why would th French fake an intel report that foreign terrorists were going to hijack planes, when the operation was an inside job that didn't involve planes?
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Laurier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 12:29 AM
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12. And just for the record,
in light of your opening post, do you accept that haaretz.com is a legitimate source of information, despite being part of the "mainstream media"?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:33 AM
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13. Russians also had the names of the hijackers. . . UN reported all of this to Bush and our
intelligence agencies in AUGUST ... just before 9/11 --

That's why they say . . .

HOW COULD THEY NOT HAVE KNOWN?

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:00 AM
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17. So, you agree there were Arab hi-jackers?

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:11 PM
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18. No . . . I'm commenting on the instability of the OCT . . . which includes "hijackers" . . .
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:52 PM
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19. So what was it that the Russians and French were trying to warn us of?

If foreign intel services were trying to warn us of hijackers, but there were no hijackers, then what is it that they were trying to warn us of?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:54 PM
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21. JB...
I love you, man, but you realize tbat trying to reason with D&P doesn't even make a dent, right?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:28 PM
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22. What you mean is ... if there were going to be no hijackers/planes used then who
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 11:29 PM by defendandprotect
spread the intelligence about a plot using hijackers/planes . . .

Well, if you look at Operation Northwoods you'll see that they're obsessed with

flying planes into buildings -- and . . .

In October 2000, first of two training exercises simulates B757 crashing into Pentagon.

As a matter of fact, BURLINGAME participates in that one before he retires to AA where

less than a year later his B757 allegedly crashes into the Pentagon -- !!!

Just for a bit more c o i n c i d e n c e -- !!

:eyes:


Later ....

In April 2001 . . . NORAD plans exercise wherein a plane is flown into Pentagon --

but Pentagon rejects it as "too unrealistic!"

And . . .

On 9/11 . . . National Reconnaisance Agency/VA was preparing to run an exercise where a

a small plane -- a corporate jet -- would be flown into their building --





So . . . if you're planning to use NO PLANES, you obviously have no need for hijackers

to hijack them. But you still have to create the ILLUSION that planes/hijackers were used.

Of course, I don't think much of the world is fooled by any of this --

but some Americans are having trouble figuring it out --


:evilgrin:


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KDLarsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 05:43 AM
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23. Oh-em-gee
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 05:47 AM by KDLarsen
Northwoods is now about crashing planes into buildings?!

And Burlingame must have been a busy man, since he was able to maintain careers with both United Airlines and the Pentagon since 1979 :eyes:

Before you go off spouting various "facts", you might want to, you know, fact-check them? Burlingame had left active duty in the Navy in 1979, though he continued in the Navy reserves - which he then retired from in 1996.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/specials/attacked/victims/v_150.html
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:46 PM
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24. Oh, okay... I get it....

So the foreign intel services were trying to warn us of a plot that didn't exist, and the Bush administration ignored the warnings.

Is that it?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 02:32 PM
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25. The bombshell that came out the day after 9/11/2001
was that when all the votes in Florida were counted (by journalists) Gore won.
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