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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:38 PM
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My 1000th post

After nearly six years, I finally have managed to reach my 1000th post.

My first thread dealt with the two different gates where a Flight 11 pushed back from:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x6265

The solution of this discrepancy is still pending.

Since then, I have detected plenty of evidence that the planes of 9/11 were duplicated, suggesting a false flag attack of the Operation Northwoods style. The last detected duplication concerns Flight 93, which received the last radio message from United Airlines at 10:10 - while it was over Champaign, Illinois!

http://911woodybox.blogspot.com/2009/09/united-airlines-tracked-different.html

My theses are based on primary evidence like radio messages, authentic witness statements or reports of established newspapers. There is little I have to retract, and bit by bit the evidence for duplicated planes comes to light. A lot of files of the 9/11 Commission have been published by now. They not only do not dismiss the idea of plane duplication; just to the contrary - they confirm it. You just have to go through them properly.

I would like to thank the admins for treating me fair during these six years despite my seemingly radical posture. A lot of people I used to work together with have been kicked out because they made the mistake to let themselves provoke. But what I appreciate on DU is that the criteria when people are banned are clear and objective and not subjected to the viewpoint of an admin.

It is my firm opinion that the evidence for 9/11 being a false flag attack is too dense to disappear into oblivion like the JFK murder. I will carry on helping to uncover it.

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:41 PM
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1. With all due respect, Woody...
your "evidence" is laughable.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 02:56 PM
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2. Congrats, Woody Box...
As to your... "It is my firm opinion that the evidence for 9/11 being a false flag attack is too dense to disappear into oblivion like the JFK murder..."

I will ALSO carry on helping to uncover JFK, starting with the debate tonight. The past is prologue.
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Woody Box Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 03:04 PM
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3. Well, do that!

The uncovering of 9/11 and JFK might have synergetic effects.

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 03:06 PM
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4. Woody...
does it ever occur to you that if there was a case to be made against anyone other than Oswald, the JFK assassination conspiracy buffw would have uncovered it well before 46 years have elapsed?
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Kesha Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:07 PM
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5. Besides the fact that Woody is always providing facts...
...and not fiction, there`s a major difference between JFK and 9/11:

Quote:
The basic rule of false flag and other disinfo operations is that, if you can keep your basic story in the forefront of the media for three clear days, it doesn't matter what is said after that: everyone will remember the original story as the truth.
But this was before the days of the Internet.

Without the internet, 9/11 would be just a date in a history book.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:15 PM
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6. "Besides the fact that Woody is always providing facts..."
If you can prove that, please do.
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Kesha Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:21 PM
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7. Beweislastumkehr
Nice try.

Woody is quoting official data, msm quotes, RADES and UA.

Your turn, just proof he is wrong, based on data. And not on "I believe".

X-Files is a TV show. This is real.

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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 04:25 PM
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8. "just proof he is wrong"
No, dude...I am asking you to prove he is right...
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:35 PM
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9. Says who?
What basic rule is THAT?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 04:02 PM
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10. I believe this is the species known as "invincible ignorance"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_fallacy

"The Invincible ignorance fallacy is a deductive Fallacy of Circularity where the person in question simply refuses to believe the argument, ignoring any evidence given. It's not so much a fallacious tactic in argument as it is a refusal to argue."
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 10:15 PM
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11. Thanks Woody Box...
I've always had the thought of duplicate, or switched, planes. I've never given any credibility to the "no planes" theories.

The path to follow now is finding out if any fighter pilots shot down some "exercise" planes over the ocean during their war games exercises.

Remember the flight controller(?) who asked "is this real world or exercise?"

Peace,

Ghost

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Ferry Fey Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 07:49 PM
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12. Congrats and thanks, Woody. n/m
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:56 PM
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13. 10:10am
9:47 TOL (Toledo)

9:51 FWY (Fort Wayne, IN)

10:10 CMI (Champaign, IL)

After Champaign, no message was received by United 93 anymore.

Message #13 was sent to the aircraft from UAL San Francisco, CA line maintenance to the ACARS screen and also activated the audible signal. The RGS for this message was near Toledo, OH as designated "TOL" in the oine "AN N591UA/GL TOL...".

Messages #14 and #15 were sent to the aircraft from CHIDD using the RGS near Toledo, OH. The messages were sent to the ACARS printer.



Woody in this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=125&topic_id=254882#254958

we had a conversation regarding Delta 1989 which landed in Cleveland at 10:10am.
I had called the Secret Service after hearing a plane in Toledo after planes were ordered to land. Reports that day included UA93 crashing in Pennsylvania at 10:10am, which I believe is when I called the SS about my plane.

The dots have connected somewhat after reading your Blog Post
http://911woodybox.blogspot.com/2009/09/united-airlines-tracked-different.html
United Airlines tracked a different Flight 93 than the FAA.

The plane I must have heard was the UA93 in your Blog.
9:47am. You said Delta turned around in Toledo at 9:55am which would fit the time frame of the 9:47am UA93.

Jennings must have said plane down near Cleveland at 10:10am mistaking the crash of United 93 for the landing of Delta 1989.
I must have been referring to the first reporting of orders to land which was quite a bit earlier than the Official FAA order.

A lot happening at 10:10am...
I will be interested in finding out where this story goes with the Flight 93 you recently wrote about.
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