Truthers Bowman and Jameson on TVNL Radio tonite

[veracity]

http://tvnewslies.org/tvnl/index.php/radio-show.html

HEAR 9/11 TRUTHERS BOB BOWMAN AND LES JAMESON ON TVNL RADIO LIVE

GUESTS: Dr. Bob Bowman Lt Col, USAF, ret. on Taking Back America & Les Jameson from NYC CAN 9/11 Truth Update

Live Broadcast: TONIGHT - Wednesday, September 30 - 8:00 PM ET.

[OnTheOtherHand]

1. isn't "truthers" derogatory? n/t

[Subdivisions]

2. Not when we use it. n/t

[SDuderstadt]

3. How stupid...

so if we call you guys what you call yourselves, it's derogatory, but not when you call yourselves that. Brilliant, Subdivisions.

[Subdivisions]

4. Welp. That went right over your head. I'm not surprised. n/t

[SDuderstadt]

5. Nice try at editing, dude...

too late.

[OnTheOtherHand]

6. naw, that isn't necessarily stupid

Words take part of their meaning from context, including how they're delivered. There's no doubt that "truthers" can be a derogatory term, to varying degrees. Sometimes the valence of words is actively contested -- "queer" comes to mind.

But I have little patience for the people who insist that the term is always derogatory, or for those who insist that they can use it but people like me never should. I don't keep notes on this sort of thing, so I'll assume that Subdivisions is in neither category.

[JackRiddler]

7. Depends who uses it...

From the debunking crowd, it's derogatory. If aimed at anyone who has not adopted it for themselves, or who has explicitly rejected it, it's childish & self-discrediting. Even more so if misspelled to make an explicit insult ("troofer"). It's analogous to how right-wingers use "Democrat" as an adjective.

However, the term also discredits anyone who uses it voluntarily as a positive description of one's self or allies. And very, very foolish. Such a person corners themselves into a sub-culture, a labeled identity, a brand, a team mentality.