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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 04:11 AM
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The NIST are a bunch of hacks - they manipulated the pic of thier own sign
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 04:16 AM by mikelewis
I'm not sure what to think about the pod on the bottom of the plane, what it is, what it did, I have no idea. I know what my eyes tell me but it just seems so ridiculous. I don't know...

But when I come across a site that can finally lay this issue to rest and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was no pod... I gotta check this out.

This is the original site that defends the Pod position and makes reference to NIST
http://www.amics21.com/911/flight175/dud.html

This is NIST

http://wtc.nist.gov/
National Institute of Standards and Technology

Well, I go poking around and find a Video showing recovered WTC steel, early WTC computer simulations and microanalysis of steel, I thought, could be fun. So I began to watch... about 43 seconds into this video, they have a sign that reads

National Institute of Standards and Technology
United States Department of Commerce

This is a black sign set against a backdrop of a field with trees in the back. Too bad, it's a fuckin fake. Check it out, here's the video

http://wtc.nist.gov/media/broll_anim_links.htm
http://realex.nist.gov/WTCb-roll_Stop.ram

and now, to prove how severely anal I am,

here's the aerial photograph of

NIST World Trade Center Investigation Team
100 Bureau Drive, Stop 8610
Gaithersburg, MD 20899-8610

http://www.landvoyage.com/viewer_f.asp?pid=232&sid=3064429&mid=0&lid=0&wx=308413&wy=4335164&zn=18&mply=11&mpsc=1250&tool=0

and here's the Yahoo map that will help you identify the streets to confirm the address.

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=H6Wj0.p_0ToFh4OioihY433XeCKQvYfexw--&csz=Gaithersburg%2C+md&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=

You will clearly see, there is not field but a parking lot. I would think that an organization that is specifically charged with the duty of analysing video data and offering it as evidence shouldn't go around manipulating a picture. It hurts your credibility. It's a good fake, if you didn't doubt every fucking thing they say, you might never have noticed. Well, I noticed fuckers....

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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:44 AM
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1. http 404 error
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:33 PM
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2. Here's a copy of the Sign
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:37 PM
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5. You'd think if they were concerned about integrity...
they wouldn't post a sign that let's everyone know how good they are at faking a picture.

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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:35 PM
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3. Here's the Aerial Photo
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:50 PM
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6. Thier Building is the one on the left with the White Trailers
parked out front
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 01:36 PM
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4. Here's the map from Yahoo
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 02:10 PM
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7. Perhaps I missed it
but what picture was manipulated? The NIST sign?

How do you know it was manipulated?

And if true why does it matter?
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mikelewis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 04:10 PM
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8. It was manipulated because there is no field behind the sign
It matters because these are the people doing the World Trade Center Investigation for the 9/11 commission.

The reason they set it against a backdrop of a field is that it looks more collegiate than showing the real picture of the sign in front of a parking lot. Nothing wrong with that.

The problem is that they actually went through the process to give a false impression. It only questions thier credibilty, that's all.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:09 PM
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9. You're making a huge leap here
First of all you can't really tell if it's faked from looking at the aerial images.


Also perhaps you are unaware of this but many organizations have very specific policies about logo's and signage that make it into the public domain. The image you think is faked make actually be an image produced specifically for the video and not even be from the site on the address.
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:17 PM
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10. Which sign? It's a 578 acre site.
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 07:20 PM by gbwarming
Zoom out and you will see that there are trees in places (like entrance drives) where signs might be located. The WTC group address seems to be for the main administration building PLUS a mailstop. This is very a common way of addressing mail to any large organization. I have no idea if the sign is in fact faked in the video, but your analysis doesn't prove that it was.

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/general2.htm
NIST has an operating budget of about $771 million and operates in two locations: Gaithersburg, Md., (headquarters—234-hectare/578-acre campus) and Boulder, Colo., (84-hectare/208-acre campus). NIST employs about 3,000 scientists, engineers, technicians, and support and administrative personnel. About 1,800 guest researchers complement the staff. In addition, NIST partners with 2,000 manufacturing specialists and staff at affiliated centers around the country.
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map of the MD campus (North points left)

This page has a large photo campus in MD
http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/FGCS/instruments/testing/map-NIST.htm
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:12 AM
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11. Deer grazing in a park, NIST campus, Gaithersburg, Md., USA
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 11:55 AM
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12. Obviously those are government planted deer. (N/T)
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