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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 04:30 AM
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No heroic passengers on Flight 93?
Here's a contribution by someone on www.letsroll911.org Ihttp://letsroll911.org/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4619&sid=54a7ba93c8e310cf3e5f6ef256821761 contributor "Surgeon"

note: I am contributing this article,not necessarily embracing it. demodewd

There is no evidence that Flight 93 crashed, much less got shot down. The crash site is completely inconsistent with a Boeing 757. No 757 crashed. There were no heroic passengers. If missiles were fired, they were not fired at a 757. There was no Flight 93.

The objectives of the bogus Flight 93 were:

1) Add average Americans to the victim list
2) Add heartland America to the target list
3A) Create a heroic story (this was the primary goal with 3B as the alternative)
3B) Demonstrate that NORAD did something

I've addressed this and related aspects in other posts, but the shoot down story is a backup coverup story.

The "heroic passengers" story was the primary story. Black psy-ops.

Now that this story is falling apart, the shoot down story will appear. Rumsfeld's statement is the first major media trial balloon to test public and media response. The Maj. Gibney and the Happy Hooligans story was the first major internet trial balloon.

Remember the "heroic passengers" story surfaced very quickly in the form of trial ballons and were immensely popular. The Bush administration had a window of about one week in which to bring forth the shoot down story without suffering major backlash for withholding this info. Since the public swallowed the lack of performance by NORAD story hook, line & sinker -- there was no need for the shoot down story.

I maintain that the media and public response was very carefully monitored in the first few days after 9/11 in order to determine if it was necessary to divulge the shoot down story.

If the perps claimed that the pax used air phones (and dummied up credit card charges to back it up) the flight 93 story would still be an "internet conspiracy". Most do not understand debris fields, crater sizes, mushroom clouds, the significance of red bandanas for Muslims, etc. etc.

The "heroic" story is falling apart -- the key mistake was the claim about the cell phones. There were other mistakes, but this was the big one that everyone can understand. Everyone understands lack of signal.

From a previous post about the targets on 9/11:
Quote:
The 9/11 Targets - Lets recap what happened on 9/11 and the chosen targets.

Twin Towers: symbols of American financial dominance and international trade/business = target against the world.

Pentagon: symbol of American military might = target against the military, ex-military, military familes and military supporters. Remember the military is THE crucial player in the PNAC goal of global dominance through unilateral military force.

Pennyslvania crash: rural America with the psy-ops phone calls, heroic passengers and Lets Roll! = target against heartland America. Note that Mark Bingham was a publically gay sportsman which helped the perps to gain support among gay Americans.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 06:10 AM
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1. I'm skeptical about this
It is POSSIBLE this happened, but I don't yet believe it is the most likely explaination.

FYI: The target of the plane wasn't a field in PA.

The target was in DC: either the white house or the capitol building.
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Aunt Anti-bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 06:43 AM
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2. I don't live far from the crash site at all.
I didn't go up there until about 5 months later, so I don't have first hand knowledge, but EVERYONE that lives up there was flocking there day after day after day just to talk to other people who'd come to their town from all over the world.

There are a lot of houses nearby. If it was Psy-ops and there was no plane, they got a whole heck of a lot of people from Somerset County playing along. Everyone talked about seeing the plane, hearing the plane, etc on 9-11. Some people had just seen it swaying in the air above their houses and boom, it crashes a second or two later, etc.

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Abe Linkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 11:19 AM
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3. Sounds plausible, reasonable and totally in keeping with an Admin. that...
is not deterred by quaint notions about things like torture, political assassinations, instigating coups, socializing societal costs/privatizing profits, stealing elections, installing AG's who don't believe in freedom or democracy and who advocate selecting which laws the Administration wants to be bound by, and so on and so forth.

Thanks for posting the article. It's right on the money.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:25 PM
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4. I tend to believe there was a plane there but also the psy-ops makes some
sense-- those red bandanas were just too much. It sounded like some sort of dramatization of a hijacking.

I just can't believ real Al Qaeda hijackers would take time to put on red bandanas. Also, this detail was not noted on the calls from the other hijacked 9/11 planes.

Thus, I get the impression that flight 93 was some sort of made for TV drama.
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