How do we know what Card whispered to Bush?

[nmoliver]

Regarding 9/11, I have a question I haven't seen asked before.

The common wisdom is that Andrew Card whispered into Bush's ear, "The second tower has been hit. The country is under attack."

What I'd like to know is: How do we know what Card whispered to Bush? Did we hear this from Card? From Bush? Who else heard it?

- Nina

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_simpli...

The following is a synopsis of the case against Dick Cheney who was named as the prime suspect in the crimes on 9/11 by Michael C. Ruppert in Crossing the Rubicon.

MEANS: Dick Cheney and the Secret Service
Cheney was Commander in Chief on 9/11 calling the shots via Secret Service.

...

Dick Cheney was the acting Commander in Chief on 9/11 and Secret Service was the supreme command.

MOTIVE: Peak Oil
The world is about to start running out of oil.

Half of the world's oil has been, or is about to be, exhausted.

...

Dick Cheney knew about Peak Oil at least as early as 1999. He knows the economic impact of oil depletion and the catastrophic effects that will result.

9/11 made possible what Dick Cheney called, "The war that won't end in our lifetimes." This is a war that is chasing the last remaining hydrocarbons across the globe. The "war on terror" is in reality an energy war and 9/11 was its pretext.

OPPORTUNITY: 9/11 War Games
Cheney was managing multiple war games and terror drills on 9/11 that paralyzed U.S. Air Force response.

In May of 2001 Dick Cheney was placed directly in charge of managing the "seamless integration" of all training exercises throughout the federal government and military agencies by presidential mandate.

...

Whoever was coordinating the Air Force war games was under the management and direction of Dick Cheney, who was also in charge of managing a terror drill being set up on the West Side of downtown New York on 9/11 titled Tripod 2. This exercise set up a command and control center on 9/11 that was configured exactly like the one lost that morning in WTC 7. It was the perfect command center to respond to the crisis, and it was under Dick Cheney's management before the hijackings occurred. How convenient.

Dick Cheney was one of the main government officials deciding that such extensive war games would take place on 9/11. This was when American intelligence had collected dozens of warnings from governments and intelligence agencies indicating that terrorists were planning to hijack civilian aircraft and crash them into American targets on the ground during the week of September 9th, 2001.

[arcane1]

1. it seemed to me...

that he wasn't whispering long enough to have said all of those words

I'll admit it's been some time since I have seen the video, however

[Ezlivin]

2. There's no way Card said all of that

If you watch the tape where he leans over to Bush and whispers, there's not enough time to spit out all those words.

It's more likely that all he said was "It's started".

Regardless, 9/11 is either LIHOP or MIHOP. And that's a hell of choice.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

3. Nina -- Very interesting. I ran across this great synopsis

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/main/essayaninterestingday.html

you may have seen. It is a minute by minute account of B**'s day on 9/11. Obviously they were keeping him out of the loop. (more than he usually is)

[LARED]

4. I have heard Card on the local radio station

basically saying what you said he said.

Of course that doesn't mean that's what he really said, but he is on record saying something very close to "The second tower has been hit. The country is under attack."

[Abe Linkman]

5. Poorly worded question, but it doesn't matter, anyhow.

Obviously, it's impossible to know what Mr. Card said to Commander Bunnypants, but even if he did tell the AWOL fraud that "the country is under attack" - that doesn't necessarily mean that Mr. Card KNEW that "the country is under attack". After all, it could have just been a crime committed by people who were mad that bush was occupying the White House as an unelected fraud. On the other hand, those words ("country under attack") may simply have been the prior agreed-upon message, and was just a part of the script for the self-attacks AKA 9/11.

Either way, or even another way, it makes no difference.

[number6]

6. we don't ....

.. who's knows what he said :shrug:

[tngledwebb]

7. Whatever Card did or didn't say, someone at that point ,

at the very latest, should have gotten Bush to move the hell out. A strong case could be made that Bush shouldn't have entered the school at all, given the time line and security failures of the first attack. (Imagine Tony Blair sitting through such a low-level photo-op where children might have been at risk, after hearing a SECOND passenger airliner crashed into one of most important buildings in, say, the financial district of London. Would he still be PM of the UK?)

Another simple question- where were YOU ( and most of the world) at the time of the SECOND attack? Isn't the answer: Glued to the TV set?

[DulceDecorum]

8. They couldn't move Bush

until they got him a change of clothes.
Something unexepected happened to the ones he was wearing.

[tngledwebb]

9. That's certainly a possibility, the fool is a coward of the first order,

and he has that idiot-caught-in-the-headlights look ( although not uncommon in his case-) which is another hint he was not clued in on all the details of the exercise.

And so his bosses may have wanted to wait till the stains dried a little and wouldn't show as much? Yes, of course that explains it! Now why couldn't M.Moore have figured that out?

[Abe Linkman]

10. Speaking of M.Moore - how exactly is he helping 9/11 TRUTH emerge?

The public will continue its march towards Fascism and a complete Police State unless and until it learns the truth about 9/11 & how our Gov't has always served the interests of the wealthy, at the expense of the rest of societies worldwide.

Mr. Moore has succeeded only in arousing more sympathy for the Devil.

[tngledwebb]

11. What he's all about you mean?

Wonder about that myself. He preaches to choir, and threw away some good chances to open up both the 9/11 and stolen election issues in F/911 although some of was compelling.

There ought to be much better people out there. Wonder if Soros has enough dough to give DD, JD II, Woody B etc, to do a little film of their own. That would be very interesting, especially if they can get on-screen interviews with all ATC's and other pros.

[Abe Linkman]

12. Soros is very unlikely to do something like that.

He's a businessman. Well, actually he's a speculator. Still, his motivations aren't as pure as he'd have us believe. (just realized as I'm typing this that it's okay to speculate about people's motivations who AREN'T here at DU. know what I mean?)

[tngledwebb]

13. Yes, Soros not the best bet for financing 9/11 skeptics. Oliver Stone?

And we needn't speculate much about most of the old archived gang anyway. There's a good history of motivational analysis here which has been helpful elsewhere on DU in regard to other late breaking 'CT's' like stolen elections and exit poll errors. Same old same old though. You know- 'pros' and 'experts' full of gobbledygook and disinfo and 'I've got a friend who' and 'are you using weighted numbers' etc. Even the NYTimes got in on the act- tried to tarnish DU by linking it with a single tsunami story.

Somebody out there is running scared of DU...

[DulceDecorum]

18. These are only symptoms,

and understanding the disease may cause one to be transfigured.
I do not necessarily mean that in a good way.

Think about it,
seriously for a minute here.
Think about the holes.

All that tax money, where does it go?
Every transaction is taxed, it adds up -- FAST.
You run to the banker every Friday and hand over the entire paycheck. What does he do with all that cash coming in?
And you know damn well that
if 200 of you tried to cash out your checking accounts on the same day,
they might have you arrested
for trying to charge of your very own money.

All the gold that has been mined over all those centuries
adds up to WHAT?
Where is it?
It ain't in Fort Knox
(and if you say it is, then YOU PROVE IT.)

All those missing children
and the FBI REFUSES to get involved.
Why?

There are big holes.
You see them everyday.
And you have grown to accept them.
You do not seek accountability.
You do not even realize that
you have lost your way from comprehending the truth.

September 11, 2001 is a distraction.
And a big one.
From the truth.
That is standing right in front of you.
The One.



WE are the One.

[LARED]

14. Moore is a genius

He successfully portrays himself as something other than a really rich guy that made his money the old fashioned way. One sucker at a time.

[Abe Linkman]

15. Right-wingers love M.Moore because he blames every1 but bushco for 911

Right-wingers may have even financed Moore's latest movie. F911 will be remembered years from now as one of the first propaganda pieces designed to condition the public for a "war" against Saudi Arabia.

[LARED]

17. Wow, fascinating view

Every right wing person I know despises Moore.

[AZCat]

19. I agree

The possibility that multiple unconnected Rwers I know have colluded to deceive me and my liberal friends about their opinions (and the opinions of Rush, Hannity and the rest of the RW media) of Moore is far-fetched, to say the least. :eyes:

[Abe Linkman]

21. You must not know any sophisticated right-wingers.

The only right-wingers who "despise" Moore are know-nothing rednecks who don't understand how the world works and who have no financial stake in the outcome of bushco policies, wars etc.

[tngledwebb]

24. Having the right wing hate and despise Mr. Moore best serves

which cause?

Ever read 1984, you know as opposed to living in it the past few years? The evil regime must have an ideal object of hate, ie Jews, Muslims, OBL/Al-Z, Moore, etc.

Of course, the far right hates and fears as a matter of course and even the most charismatic and personable liberals will be vilified.

[Abe Linkman]

25. Sophisticated right-wingers love Moore. Once again, here's why.

The MAIN reasons why savvy right-wingers love Moore are:

* He blames a future invasion target (Saudi Arabia) for 9/11 - thus taking the heat off the Commander Bunnypants Administration as the 9/11 perp, conditions the masses for an invasion of Saudi Arabia, and because he can be marginalized as a rich, left-wing conspiratorial Hollywood liberal elitist who hates America, ALL of his views can be demonized (THUS, making ANY buscho/911 connection seem like only the most far-out of remote kooky conspiracies).

[LARED]

26. Do you think the US will be invading SA during

Bush's second term?

[DulceDecorum]

27. With what army?

The chicken hawks are now hiding behind girly girls.

Doing the job of the media, Elaine Donnelly of the Center for Military Readiness (CMR) broke a significant scoop. Donnelly had obtained information, including official briefing documents, indicating that the Pentagon is moving to force female soldiers into new land combat brigades. If this is because of shortages of male combat soldiers, then the Pentagon is not telling us.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2151

[LARED]

28. DD, a careful reading shows

that the DOD is considering allowing women into combat brigades. This is different than placing women in land combat units. I'll assume until otherwise shown that his may be done to free up men for combat units by having females work in support roles.

This is not to say I agree with putting women in combat brigades, but rather I'm just trying to clarify the issue for you.

Of couse this has nothing to do with the question I asked Abe. Which must be why you responded??????

[Abe Linkman]

29. Maybe.

It may not happen until his third term.

[LARED]

30. Abe, I'm surprised

I'd have thought someone like you would have heard of the 22nd amendment.

Not a native?

[spooked911]

16. I think he just said "the second tower has been hit"

That's about the length of what he said and I don't think he needed to say more than that really.

[demodewd]

20. Maybe..

Maybe Card said...

"The Pentagon plane is running 20 minutes late so just sit tight until we give you a signal"

[Abe Linkman]

22. BINGO!

Makes perfect sense. Thanks, demodewd.

[Taxloss]

23. All I remember from the UK is the questions.

At work, we were all fixated by the TV, but within seconds of the first real pictures, we were asking questions: What is the government doing? What is going on? Has the second tower been evacuated?

I know we have a larger government in the UK so we expect more from it, but I found the void where government action SHOULD have been on 9/11 spooky. Creepy. Like they were sitting back. That blank look Bush gives when card leans over ... it chills me. I hate and hated Thatcher, but even after she had her BEDROOM blown up in the Brighton bombing, she snapped into action. Even the pathetic Major was quick after the Rose Garden bombing. Where was Bush?

But the UK is also a country with far more experience in counter-terrorism, against a real threat, the IRA, not the phantom menace. Bombs and bomb threats were a resounding factor of my childhood.