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DETERMINEDPROGRESIVE (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-05 05:48 PM Original message |
To Those For, and Against, MIHOP, Please Kindly Help |
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mikelewis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-05 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. There are a great many good sites but this one's my favorite |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-05 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thank you very much for your sincere request. I am relatively new on this |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 05:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. Kidding right? |
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WoodrowFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-05 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. as for your questions |
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DETERMINEDPROGRESIVE (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-05 06:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I hope other posts will have more that can be substantiated |
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RedSock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-05 08:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. a book you need |
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DETERMINEDPROGRESIVE (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-30-05 09:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I've actually read one of those huge timelines before |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 09:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. The best part about Thompson's timeline is that it is all drawn from |
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meppie-meppie not (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 01:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. ITA :-) n/t |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 04:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. What does ITA mean? |
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meppie-meppie not (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 05:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I agree that his timeline is very legit , I think it's as accurate as |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 05:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. mainstream sources |
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DulceDecorum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. RE: mainstream sources |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Good point. But mainstream sources are more liklely to convince "newbies" |
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DulceDecorum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
76. True, one good hard look |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. I think the better question is how can YOU reject LIHOP or MIHOP |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. how can YOU reject LIHOP or MIHOP |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 08:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. how about HIHOP, then? |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 08:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. HIHOP |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. So you think they simply ignored the warnings due to negligence |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-05 04:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. MIHOP and even LIHOP |
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Democrat Dragon (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Read PNAC |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 06:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. PNAC says nothing about mass mudering their own citizens for |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 06:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. You are talking about the same people who lied through their teeth |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 09:17 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. You mean like |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 09:34 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. They did not see the same Intelligence, and the Intelligence |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 10:58 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Not true |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Then those Democrats are just as guilty for not trying to convince |
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meppie-meppie not (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. BTW, Kerry et al DID NOT see the same intelligence reports as |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Source it |
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meppie-meppie not (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. get acquainted with Google :-) n/t |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. I am |
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meppie-meppie not (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 03:05 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I am ! :-) n/t |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. you didn't say "solely" |
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Democrat Dragon (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 12:01 AM Response to Reply #55 |
77. The Dems were TRICKED, just like a large chunk of America at the time |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. BTW |
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Democrat Dragon (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Think about it, weren't 60-80% of Americans at the time |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
70. Large portion of the goverment? How do you figure that? |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-05 06:07 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. IHOP. |
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fujiyama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-04-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
80. Thompson's timeline |
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meppie-meppie not (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 01:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. this timeline is actually a great resource tool while you're reading |
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John Doe II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
28. Intellectually dishonest |
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Abe Linkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. KaBOOM! Well done. Extremely well-done. n/t |
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John Doe II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 11:19 AM Response to Reply #28 |
58. Dear Mr. Woodrowfan, |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 05:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. I'd like an explaantion for why the Dulles airport video doesn't have a |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 08:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. Huh? |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 08:55 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Live-Fly |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 09:59 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Interesting article from USA Today |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 10:53 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Yes, it was interesting |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Are you stating that there weren't drills on September 11th? |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. You mean this |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/011805_simplify_case.shtml |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 12:49 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Ok |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. The rationale is that it provides smoke and mirrors. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
75. Names screwed up? |
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vincent_vega_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. OPERATION VIGILANT WARRIOR |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Argue with the 9/11 Commission. They cite both |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Well, gee whiz |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 11:34 AM Response to Reply #53 |
59. See post #57. n/t |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
71. See Ruppert's book "Crossing the Rubicon" |
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ScaRBama (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
8. Here is a good read.... |
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meppie-meppie not (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. great link thanks! :-) n/t |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
9. Welcome to the club! I had the shift you had a few months back. |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
10. Can you expand on this question |
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DETERMINEDPROGRESIVE (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 05:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Collapse By Fuel i.e. Burning Fuel Weakened Structure etc |
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AZCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Here's the current (official) hypothesis for the collapse of WTC 1 |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. As AZCat says, the official theory is that the fuel heated the columns |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Fire are hot enough to degrade steel |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 08:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Assuming that is true, that's a good point. But are all steel beams in |
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LARED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-01-05 08:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I am not an expert in building codes, so |
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k-robjoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. Some pieces |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Please don't forget the valiant FBI Agent Robert Wright. |
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meppie-meppie not (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. this is the first time I'm hearing about him thanks OSOmm! :-) n/t |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Your welcome. I really wish his press conference was still available. |
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meppie-meppie not (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 05:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. ya, they have a link for the video of it but it doesn't work. I would have |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. My guess is that there is a transcript at Judicial Watch. They held |
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meppie-meppie not (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. "still under gag order" now why am I not surprised! It's stuff like this |
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meppie-meppie not (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-31-05 01:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. great stuff!! :-) n/t |
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Democrat Dragon (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-02-05 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
45. U.S wanted to invade Afganistan BEFORE 9/11 |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-03-05 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
74. Of course everyone HAS to read the Coincidence Theorist's Guide to 9/11 |
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