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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:20 PM
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Were the Twin Towers Destroyed by Advanced Microwave Weapons?
Jim Hoffman presents his theory for this idea here:
http://www.kpfa.org/archives/archives.php?id=13&limit=N

Go down to December 15th show.

A must-hear show if you're interested in how the towers came down.

Importantly, he goes over why the use of conventional explosives to bring down the buildings is unlikely.

He does note the metalurgical studies showing sulferization and oxidation of the steel I discuss in this post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=41308&mesg_id=41308
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 04:18 PM
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1. re: Hoffman
He's very convincing, isn't he. The constancy of the minute dust particles,the explanation of the spire,the afterglow...
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:00 AM
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9. Yes, I thought so. It made sense and he's definitely a smart guy.
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ROH Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:18 PM
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2. Full Transcript
http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/radio/youreyesdontlie/index.html

I think Jim Hoffman has done some extremely interesting work, but please see this note at the beginning of the transcript:
"Towards the end of this interview, which was recorded in January of 2004, Hoffman describes a speculative theory about a weapon system used to destroy the Twin Towers, which we denote the "coaxial beam microwave interferometry theory". Hoffman no longer considers this theory credible, for reasons described here." http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/theories/energybeam.html
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:41 PM
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3. Right on!
Jim Hoffman has since abandoned this theory, which seems to be lacking in both eye-witness and physical evidence. High energy explosives are still the most likely source of the energy he has analyzed in the North Tower dust cloud pressure wave--whether chemical or nuclear or both, we are still working on! :yourock:
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:44 PM
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5. Right on dude..
You rock!
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ROH Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:53 PM
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6. Thank you
When you comment: "... whether chemical or nuclear or both, we are still working on!", do you mean that you work with Jim?
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:33 PM
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7. WE ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS!
Even if we have various temporary technical disagreements that change as new information emerges.

Jim Hoffman is one of the best independent researchers of the WTC disaster, no doubt about it! However, his microwaves idea was not quite right as he has now admitted. :nopity:
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:46 PM
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8. apparently..
Apparently Dwayne Wade pulled a back muscle severely.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:13 AM
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11. What I want to know is what was the deal with the underground explosions
that occurred about the same time as the planes hit the towers?

http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/underground/underground_explosions.htm

What's strange is these explosions started WELL BEFORE the buildings started collapsing. Could they have been a major part of the reason for the collapse?
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:18 AM
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13. crater
Does this relate to the crater in building 6?
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:42 PM
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4. Well...
Well..,I guess that sort of takes care of that idea.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:07 AM
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10. I see. Thanks!
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:14 AM
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12. Hoffman still concludes official story not a valid possibility; but
that no known technology explains the huge amount of energy necessary to totally pulverize all of the solid materials in the buildings other than the steel columns in a virtually uniform manner, and to splinter the steel columns. Conventional high explosives may be the most likely scenario but even this has problems that don't seem consistent with the evidence.

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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:55 AM
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15. Tactical nukes could explain that amount of energy.
Check out the writings of this concerned Finnish military expert:
http://members.surfeu.fi/11syyskuu/military.htm

Whether this guy is exactly right about the kind of tactical nukes used, is not completely knowable from information that's publically available so far. However, radionuclides of Uranium, Actinium and Thorium identified by quantum emmission spectra in WTC dust are consistent with tactical nukes being used to supply that energy.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 01:08 AM
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16. He talked about the gold bullion moved from WTC4?
Does anyone know a URL?
I've seen discussions of this before; that witnesses said that much of the gold bullion was moved out of the building on a flat bed truck with a lot of guards just before 9/11.

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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 12:37 AM
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14. while topics like this are interesting I think they are obscuring the most
important issues which I think are who was responsible and why?

And though there is no solid evidence supporting how the building collapses happened physically(just evidence it couldn't have been the official theory), I think its obvious there is solid documentation of complicity by White House, Pentagon and military officials.

This being the case, it would seem to be more productive to pursue the case thats already solid and do a real investigation including questioning of those with known contradictory testimony, the apparently guilty parties, get indictments and/or impeachments; and likely find out from those parties the details of how the physical effects were carried out.

http://www.flcv.com/offcompl.html

and Dr. Griffin's books




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