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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 12:44 AM
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Has the Media had a direct role in 9/11 cover-up? know any cases?
Is this one? posted previously

Media doctored reports and videos at WTC to edit out reference to explosions

http://www.fourwinds10.com/news/05-government/C-fraud/01-911/2003/05C1-09-03-03-evidence-of-pre-collapse-explosions-at-WTC.html
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 01:30 AM
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1. Corporate Media continues to aid and abet the Big Lie.
They'll go down in flames with the traitors they ennabled.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:12 AM
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12. Anthrax is excellent at silencing. n/t
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 09:59 PM
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2. Pentagon witnesses saw the C130! why didn't Media report what they said?
Edited on Mon Jun-20-05 10:02 PM by philb
The second plane looked similar to a C-130 transport plane, said. He believes it flew directly above the American Airlines jet, as if to prevent two planes from appearing on radar - while at the same time - guiding the jet toward the Pentagon.

Kelly Knowles, a First Colonial High School alumnus who now lives in an apartment a few miles from the Pentagon, said some sort of plane followed the doomed American Airlines jet toward the Pentagon, then veered away after the explosion.

Northern Virginia resident John O'Keefe was one of the many commuters who witnessed the attack on the Pentagon. <...> "The first thing I did was pull over onto the shoulder, and when I got out of the car I saw another plane flying over my head, and it scared ...me, because I knew there had been two planes that hit the World Trade Center. And I started jogging up the ramp to get as far away as possible. "Then the plane -- it looked like a C-130 cargo plane -- started turning away from the Pentagon, it did a complete turnaround.
New York Lawyer, September 12, 2001

Albert Hemphill: Within moments there was a very loud bang, which seemed to come from the direction of Henderson Hall. At least, all the heads turned towards Henderson. It is possible that this was a secondary explosion from the Pentagon or possibly an F-16 going supersonic. <...> The only large fixed wing aircraft to appear was a gray C-130, which appeared to be a Navy electronic warfare aircraft, he seemed to survey the area and depart in on a westerly heading

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/05/316862.shtml
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:04 PM
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3. And why weren't reports of bombs/explosions at Pentagon investigated?
Explosives Evident
A personnel attorney at the Pentagon, Goldsmith was riding a shuttle bus to work on Tuesday, Sept. 11, when she learned of the attack on the World Trade Center. <...> "We saw a huge black cloud of smoke," she said, saying it smelled like cordite or gun smoke.
Jewish Bulletin News, September 21, 2001

WASHINGTON, D.C. --- The airliner crashed between two and three hundred feet from my office in the Pentagon, just around a corner from where I work.

I'm the deputy General Counsel, Washington Headquarters Services, Office of the Secretary of Defense. A slightly different calibration and I have no doubt I wouldn't be sending this to you. My colleagues felt the impact, which reminded them of an earthquake. People shouted in the corridor outside that a bomb had gone off upstairs on the main concourse in the building. No alarms sounded. I walked to my office, shut down my computer, and headed out. Even before stepping outside I could smell the cordite. Then I knew explosives had been set off somewhere."
Timothy McSweeney's, September 19, 2001

John Bowman, a retired Marine lieutenant colonel and a contractor, was in his office in Corridor Two near the main entrance to the south parking lot. "Everything was calm,' Bowman said. "Most people knew it was a bomb. Everyone evacuated smartly. We have a good sprinkling of military people who have been shot at."
dcmilitary.com, September 14, 2001

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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:07 PM
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4. Why weren't the hotel employees who saw the video of Pentagon crash ques
Hotel employees sat watching the film in shock and horror several times before the FBI confiscated the video as part of its investigation. It may be the only available video of the attack. The Pentagon has told broadcast news reporters that its security cameras did not capture the crash.
Gertzfile, September 21, 2001 (NLA)

Velasquez says the gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to have recorded the moment of impact. "I've never seen what the pictures looked like," he said. "The FBI was here within minutes and took the film." National Geographic, December 11, 2001 (NLA)

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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:17 PM
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5. Why was the C130 allowed to take off since all planes including military
had been grounded other than those with orders regarding 9/11 response?


*At 9:25*, Garvey , in an historic and admirable step, and almost certainly after getting an okay from the White House, initiated a national ground stop, which forbids takeoffs and requires planes in the air to get down as soon as reasonable. The order...applied to virtually every single kind of machine that can takeoff - civilian, military, law enforcement.
Time, September 14, 2001 (Mineta had also issued similar and FAA Boston had closed this area even eariler)

Lt. Col. Steve O'Brien started his day at the controls of a Minnesota National Guard C-130 cargo plane. He and his crew were heading back to the Twin Cities after moving military supplies around the Caribbean. About *9:30 a.m.*, O'Brien throttled the lumbering plane down a runway at Andrews Air Force Base, just southeast of the District of Columbia.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:04 AM
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17. Military planes are NEVER grounded. Period.
When we closed U.S. airspace, it had ZERO effect on the military.

Once again, the media was *gasp* wrong.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:29 PM
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6. What was the mysterious white jet? Cutter charges??
I read this that the white jet using a radar device set off cutter charges type explosives to take out the WTC???

the source is not permitted at DU But I thought it was fasciating..
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Rob Conn Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 03:24 AM
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10. Unpermitted source?
What's an unpermitted source? - R.C.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 07:15 PM
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14. There is some evidence the white jet was Buffet's plane that was at both
the UA 93 and WTC sites. It is known that Buffet's plane was monitoring the UA 93 on most of its route and talking to FAA along the way. Its known Buffet's plane flew over the crash site and I think the FAA even acknoledged that they asked the plane for info on
what the pilot was seeing there.

So the fact that a white jet was seen by over a dozen witnesses at the crash site and Buffet's plane was there at that time make it likely the white jet was Buffet's plane. Of course the FAA should know if there were more than one white jet there, along with the F-16s and the C130H electronic warfare plane. Why haven't they cleared this up.

But also, a similar white jet was photographed and witnessed in N Y at WTC during those incidents. So were they the same plane?
Does the timing work?

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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:35 PM
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7. Another of many cases of bias/sloppy coverage?
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-20-05 10:40 PM
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8. maybe not
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 12:38 AM
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9. Woodward said "they" were covering up something "they" knew about
9/11 "for the good of the country."
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Tim Howells Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:28 AM
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16. Interesting! Can you give me a reference on this?
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 12:00 AM
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11. CNN WTC story cover-up
CNN WTC story cover-up http://bushflash.com/swf/wtc.swf
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:47 AM
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18. Link not working. nt
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 04:39 PM
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13. There is video that has only been seen on TV the day of...
Much of it refutes the official senario. It is around the Internet in various places....

One set has descriptions of the aircraft having no windows and not being of comercial type, multiple people.

Others about explosions in the buildings and more...

I more than likely have not seen it all...

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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 11:46 PM
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15. Why hasn't some journalism school or entity set up a system to assess MSM
reporting accuracy and bias. Such seems to be a huge problem.
Partly caused by the fact they mostly quote Administration sources for most stories and thus report mostly spin.

But media like Dan Rather/CBS and Newsweek got beat up on stories that had the substance basically correct, yet

I see huge numbers of news reports every week on Fox News and etc. that clearly are both inaccurate and biased. And can be documented to be so after the fact.

So why does the public allow this to go on and aren't journalism and communications schools and professors concerned about the obvious morass out there these days?

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