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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:10 PM
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Guy Says Blast In Basement of WTC Before Planes Hit.........
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/28031.htm


This is the first I've heard of this and I have attempted to include a link to the article. Has anybody else heard this story?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:13 PM
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1. This is so dumb it doesn't even warrant attention.
The explanation is right there in the article and is ignored.

David had been in front of a nearby freight elevator on sub-level 1 about 400 feet from the office when fire burst out of the elevator shaft, causing his injuries.

When the plane hit the tower, it is known that intense fireballs shot down all the elevator shafts and severely burned people standing in front of elevator doors throughout the building.
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FtWayneBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:36 PM
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2. please do not dismiss eyewitness accounts of explosions
"before and immediately after the plane hit" out of hand. Who had the most to gain of a "Pearl Harbor" type event? There is way too much government coverup of the truth already. We must be open to listen to what those who were there experienced.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:43 PM
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4. Just one question.
How, if you were in the lower levels of the building, would you know exactly when the plane hit, so that you would be in a position to know what events transpired before and which ones after?
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Big Kahuna Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:38 PM
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3. Which raises another question..
"When the plane hit the tower, it is known that intense fireballs shot down all the elevator shafts and severely burned people standing in front of elevator doors throughout the building."

Jet fuel, contrary to popular belief, is not incredibly combustable or explosive. It is basically identical to kerosene, home heating oil, deisel fuel, and common vegetable oil!

I know there is an urban legent about Ford Pintos instantly exploding upon rear impact. :) But jet fuel is much less volitile than gasoline, and is much slower to ignite, and burns at a much lower temperature.

I call bullshit.

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:43 PM
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5. Which explains why planes never burst into flames, right? n/t
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:51 PM
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6. There are a lot of stuff on 911
What is consistents is that all potential evidence and follow up has been stop by the US goverment. Instead of helping to reveal the truth the US goverments has been preventing the truth from been revealed. Hence it leave a big unexplain gap in so many area.

WHY?
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 09:53 PM
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7. Yeah, 8 years before they hit...nt
Sid
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 10:33 PM
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8. I find it interesting that the 34th floor...
Was vacant and stripped due to construction (alarmingly conveinient)... and that there were small explosions going off between the 20th and 30th floors. It would explain the demolition like fall the tower had into it's own foot print.
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dwckabal Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-27-05 11:53 PM
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9. The story makes no sense
This is particularly inane:

Rodriguez claims,..."I'm very certain, I'll give it 90% that [United Airlines Flight 175 hijacker Mohand] Alshehri was casing the towers before the attacks," said Rodriguez.

Why would he case a building he was going to fly a plane into?
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meppie-meppie not Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 10:41 AM
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15. if that doesn't make sense then try this...
prior to Sept 11 there were 50 some reports dealing with an attack on American soil via the air and yet America had no air defense on 911. The most powerful and supposedly heavily guarded building in the world, i.e., the Pentagon had no air defense let alone defense from the seas...does that make sense?
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KBlagburn Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 12:02 AM
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10. And What Happened To The Pentagon Plane?
Of all photos and video shot after the plane "hit the pentagon" there is not one piece of aircraft visible. We know they found pieces of the planes from the WTC but the plane at the pentagon "hit" at ground level.
So why are they no pieces of plane evident in any photos or video. And why was the hole made by the impact so small? If a plane hit, you shoulndt even be able to see the hole at all. And why is there very little burn evidence on the exterior prior to the wall collapse?

Inquiring minds want to know.







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meppie-meppie not Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 01:53 AM
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12. far too inquiring and intelligent a question for this crowd to know, IMO
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 12:46 AM
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16. Investigate, and you may find out
"Of all photos and video shot after the plane "hit the pentagon" there is not one piece of aircraft visible."

That isn't true. Maybe the photos you've seen don't show evidence of a plane, but they sure as hell exist.

Look: http://rense.com/general32/phot.htm


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Corey_Baker08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 12:28 AM
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11. The Timing of Events is Impossible.........
"Usually arriving to work at 8:30am, the morning of 9/11 he reported 30 minutes late. If he’d arrived on time, it would have put him at the top floors just about the same time the jetliner hit the north tower"

If he usually arrived to work at 8:30 and was a half hour late that would make it 9:00, the attacks on the north tower happened at 8:45

If he was in the south tower and arrived at 9:00, the north tower had already been hit 15 minutes earlier, why would he have went into a building that is within feet of another massive burning building to report to work as normal. Also that would have only given him 3 minutes to be in there before the other plane hit the south tower.

Maybe I am not seeing this right when he arrived at work at 9:00 was he in the north or south tower. if he was in the north tower the attacks had happened 15 minutes before he even got there so that is unlikely, but if he was in the South why would he go into a building to report to work as normal when for 15 minutes the twin building within feet of it was a massive ball of fire.

Very interesting Story though
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meppie-meppie not Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:05 AM
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13. There were other witnesses who reported the same explosion like
stationary engineer Mike Pecoraro who reported in:
http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/underground/underground_explosions.htm
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 06:31 AM
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14. I believe this is a case of poor reporting and you should contact
the writer to clarify.
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Christophera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 01:24 AM
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17. Sequence Not Issue, Cracking Walls Indicates Explosions
The building engineers in the basement and tower occupants confirm the explosions AFTER impact, so the notion of a small group getting the sequence reversed is not an issue.
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