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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 12:34 PM
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red headbands,attendant warnings,and cockpit intrusion on Flight 93
Liz Glick recalls the following details in her conversation with her husband and Flight 93 passenger Jeremy..Lyz recalls no background noise. No commotion. He described the men as Arabic-looking, wearing red headbands, carrying knives. One told passengers he had a bomb. Most passengers had been forced to the rear of the cabin. Glick's mother-in-law went to another phone and dialed 911. As Jeremy and Lyz spoke, New York state police patched in on the call.

3 Observations
1.I read somewhere that the color red would not be worn by those in the immediate process of giving up their lives to Allah.

2. Would not one of the attendants immediately warn the cockpit of the suspicious behavior of four Arab looking young men donning red headbands?

3. The cockpit had been warned of possible cockpit intrusion by 9:00. Certainly this would have put the pilot and co-pilot on the highest defensive posture possible.




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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 12:53 PM
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1. The red headband is worn by Hamas in suicide attacks

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/06/29/wmid29.xml

I'd think the attendants would have been very alarmed by something like this.
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Bismillah Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 12:56 PM
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2. red headbands
1. There aren't many references to the wearing of red headbands by Islamist militants, but there are some:

a) an AFP report from Iran (11-26-97):

"The Islamic Republic News Agency said members of the paramilitary force known as the Basij assembled at military bases, public squares and stadiums in major cities. About a third of them were women in black gowns and red headbands inscribed with religious slogans."


http://www.farsinet.com/news/nov97.html

b) a Reuters report from April 21, 2005

"Iranian hardline cleric Grand Ayatollah Hossein Nouri-Hamedani's religious decree was read to volunteers over a loudspeaker. It said "martyrdom operations" were permissible in the "occupied Islamic countries" as a weapon of war against modern armies. "Any martyrdom-seeking operation is a jihad (holy war) for God," it said. Women dressed in the traditional head-to-foot black chador and men wearing red headbands which read "Prophet Mohammad is God's messenger", responded with chants of "God is great"."


Maybe more examples could be found, if someone has the time and inclination to search for them.

2. Not necessarily; not, for example, if they were extremely quick about it (and very threatening).

3. Yes - and is it credible that not one of the eight pilots and co-pilots managed to signal a hijacking to ground control?
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 01:42 PM
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3. I have long thought that the red headbands are like a bad movie script
what is weird is Glick is the only to mention this on flight 93, and none of the calls from the other 9/11 flights mentioned red headbands.

IMO, the flight 93 hijacking was fake.
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Culhavoc Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 02:05 PM
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4. Red Headbands = Red Team?
Being a proponent of the "war games + terror drills = 9/11" hypothesis, I've always interpreted this statement to mean one thing.

The "hijackers" were involved in a compartmentalized Terror Drill on 9/11 in which they participated on behalf of the "Red Team".

-Culhavoc
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meppie-meppie not Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-04-05 10:52 AM
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8. this is the theory advanced by M.Ruppert in "Crossing the Rubicon"
but if you follow it to it's entirety it leads or ends with Dick Cheney. So even here we are back to the MIHOP.
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-28-05 03:10 PM
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5. assuming that thephone calling scenario is bogus
Assuming that the phone calling scenario is bugus,that leaves us with the distinct possibility that the original flight was landed IMO. Perhaps this would be the time when the perpetrators would attain positive identification of th e passengers,particularly those who would be used via voice morphing in the intended fake phone call phase.

Flight manifests would have allowed the plotters some time frame to tap into phone conversations of the passengers prior to the day of the flight. Voice morphings would then be made of each victim and used that day.

If you conclude that the phone calls were bogus,something like this must have been done.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 11:08 PM
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6. 911Research group concludes Flight 93 was shot down
Evidence Indicates Flight 93 Was Shot Down
http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/flight93/index.html

As other evidence previously posted supports, and Donn de Grande-Pre and others who made statements indicating Fl 93 was shot down by Langley pilot.

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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-02-05 11:45 PM
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7. there's no doubt in my mind that 93 was shot down
Yes...this is where the plot thickens. It refutes the claims by Chaney et al and puts in doubt the "let's roll" scenario.
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