Newly Released Records

[mirandapriestly]

Has anyone looked at these yet? I am surprised there hasn't been much buzz about them.
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/nyregion/nyregionspecial3/

[Christophera]

1. Great Link!! Tower Demo Created 75 mph Wind On Streets

On this page of the records,

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html

is the account of Timothy Brown.

A seventy five mile an hour wind. Only explosives pushing mass outwards could cause that on that scale.

[mirandapriestly]

2. wow, good one

I'm going to dig into those interviews I haven't seen them yet. On the radio transmission from the fire department I think, a fireman said there was a huge "explosion, then it collapsed." Was that already released? also I thought the reason given for the lower windows breaking was a fireball coming down the elevator shaft, but they describe the elevators as working, so I don't get that.

[philb]

3. I've previsously posted other witnesses stating similar

Over the last three and half years, The Times has obtained some of these records through unofficial channels, and they can be found on the Web at www.nytimes.com/sept11.
These include the dispatch tapes, nearly 100 of the Fire Department oral histories, and a log of calls to Emergency Medical Service dispatchers that were channeled through the 911 system.


Here are the unedited 9/11 tapes from the New York Fire Department, released today. ***

• Tape 1 - 22 (21 Missing)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8926416

[delver]

4. James Drury (Assistant Commissioner FDNY)

i just started reading some random accounts. this one's got a couple nuggets in it:

"I came close to arriving at the corner of
Vesey and West again where we started to hear the

second roar. That was the north tower now coming

down. I should say that people in the street and

myself included thought that the roar was so loud

that the explosive - bombs were going off inside

the building. Obviously we were later proved

wrong. "


"There were hundreds of

firefighters waiting to -- they were waiting for 7

World Trade Center to come down as it was on

fire. It was too dangerous to go in and fight the

fire. I lingered there for quite a while, but the

smell and the smoke was finally too much and I

decided I wasn't doing any good there. "

" That's basically what my memories are of the

day. The sight of the jumpers was horrible and

the turning around and seeing that first tower

come down was unbelieveable. The sound it made.

As I said I thought the terrorists planted

explosives somewhere in the building. That's how

loud it was, crackling explosive, a wall. That's

about it. Any questions?"

[mirandapriestly]

5. Here 's One

Abed Faisel
. So my partner said stop the freaking bus,
stop the freaking bus. The building's going to fall.
The building's going to fall on us. It was coming --
the force -- you see like the -- shit, the whole top of
the building go off and just the junk that was coming
out of there and the explosion was -- I thought it was
Hollywood. I thought this was an act. I said this
can't be happening. In New York. It's not happening.
I slowed it down. He got scared and I got
scared so we kind of just slowed down a bit, you know,
and he says listen, we really can't go in there. There
is too much coming off the building. You could see
stuff flying out of the building and people way before
you get there. So we do it. We go, we go. We finally
go to Vesey and West. Turned there.

[mirandapriestly]

6. These were made public August 12

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/met_WTC_histories_full_01.html

they are very interesting, IMO

[philb]

7. Some of the information is blacked out. What was blacked out and

by whom and for what reason??

Lt. Neil Brosnan

WE TRIED TO MOVE TRAFFIC (blanked out ...)
THIS WAS REPORTED TO THE DETECTIVES ON MY INTERVIEW WITH THEM. WE THOUGHT IT WAS UNUSUAL BUT WE JUST WENT AGAINST TRAFFIC WE
GOT TO THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE ME AND 221 WERE IN TANDEM FOR THE WHOLE WAY

[mirandapriestly]

8. ANOTHER ONE

G . ASAEDA, a doctor with the Paramedics:

I do remember thinking that it looked very secure, thick
concrete and whatnot, and we all crammed, probably
about 30 of us, into this little alcove between the
lobby and the loading dock.

about eight lines blanked out here, between these two statements!

. and he next thing I
n o t i c e d , t h a t j e t engine sound and then a loud crash
and then pitch black . Then --
Q . Just prior to that , were there electrical
lights where you were?
A. Yes, there were.
Q . Did they stay on?


NOW WHAT DOES THAT SAY???




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[Ouabache]

10. It would seem to say that

he is working in the first building hit.

And he describes something prior to the second jet hitting the second tower that is BLACKED OUT of the testimony. He testified to an event (8Line blacked out) that occurred before he heard the second jet engines sound which has been deleted. Why?

[mirandapriestly]

11. Exactly. nt

[JackRiddler]

9. Firefighter Frank Campagna, Ladder 11 in Manhattan

"Any other explosions that we felt from inside were maybe extra machinery or something like that. Those were the words that we were getting... We got up to about the 17th floor, and we felt another pretty big explosion... After that happened, the building was still standing, everybody kept going up... We had to switch staircases. I believe the staircase we were in, there was no way down it anymore on the lower level. There was word that it had been taken out; we don't know what from. So we switched to a different staircase. We headed down. We let the civilians go first..."

"That was it. It came down on top of us..."

(typing it from today's Newsday, which has a huge special section)

[mirandapriestly]

12. OMG. That's huge

and there are tons of references to an explosion or use of the word explosion.

[mirandapriestly]

13. They knew a second plane was coming

"-- of the other plane. We heard rumors
that another plane was on route, and one of the guys,
Lieu, "Did you hear that? There's another plane on
route, another one.""

I have never heard that before. That is really scary, because they were telling people NOT TO LEAVE the tower that had not been hit and I don't believe they were making much of an evacuation effort on the other building.
Also, this makes it even more suspicious that there was no interception from a fighter plane.