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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:00 AM
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Hopsicker - Cover-Up: ATTAH's Father in US Two Weeks before 9-11
The wheels are coming off the Bush PNAC bandwagon.

Daniel Hopsicker reports the US Government erased tape evidence showing Attah's old man arriving in the good old USA:





Mohamed Atta Senior in U.S.
Two Weeks Before 9.11 Attack


August 23,2005-Venice, FL.
by Daniel Hopsicker

In the second major blow in as many weeks to the credibility of the 9.11 Commission report, the MadCowMorningNews has learned exclusively that during final preparations for the Sept 11 attack, Mohamed Atta’s father was 'visiting' his terrorist ringleader son in Venice, Florida.

Moreover, the FBI knew about the U.S. visit of Cairo attorney Mohammed El-Amir almost immediately after the attack, when, after seeing him on television denying that his son had anything to do with the terrorist hijackings, a number of credible witnesses called the Sarasota office of the FBI to report they had seen Atta’s father in Venice with his son ten days to two weeks before the attack.

In addition, closed circuit videotape provided to the FBI as evidence of Atta Senior’s presence appears to have been intentionally erased.

"Remember where you heard it first."

The revelation is yet another major contradiction of the FBI’s official account of the 911 attack, and it comes hard on the heels of news that a military intelligence unit called Able Danger was tracking Atta’s movements in America in 1999 and early 2000. at a time when the FBI steadfastly maintains Atta was not yet in the U.S.

Atta first arrived in the U.S. on June 3, 2000, according to the FBI. The glaring “discrepancy” has begun fueling urgent calls for an reappraisal of the Bureau’s entire 9.11 investigation.

CONTINUED...

http://madcowprod.com/08232005.html



Gee. What else have Bushler's lackeys erased?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:07 AM
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1. Rec'd!
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:08 AM
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2. mad cow morning news? now that sounds really credible nt
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:09 AM
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3. Instead of your ignorant comment, perhaps check his resume'. nt
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 09:09 AM by Al-CIAda
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:13 AM
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4. As compared to what?
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 09:30 AM by seemslikeadream
http://ancapistan.typepad.com.nyud.net:8090/photos/uncategorized/judithmillercrimes.jpg

They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique
And a swinging hot spot
Don’t it always seem to go
That you don’t know what you’ve got
Till it’s gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

They took all the trees
Put ’em in a tree museum
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see ’em
Don’t it always seem to go
That you don’t know what you’ve got
Till it’s gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

Hey farmer farmer
Put away that d.d.t. now
Give me spots on my apples
But leave me the birds and the bees
Please!
Don’t it always seem to go
That you don’t know what you’ve got
Till it’s gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot

Late last night
I heard the screen door slam
And a big yellow taxi
Took away my old man
Don’t it always seem to go
That you don’t know what you’ve got
Till it’s gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:16 AM
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5. Hopsicker has only researched Atta for 4 years, written a book on his role
and exposed 90% of what we KNOW about him and the network in Florida. ...Not that THAT matters to chuckles.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:33 PM
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22. Your post reflects poorly on you, not Hopsicker.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:50 PM
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24. Hopsicker's "Welcome to Terrorland"
was a bestseller in Germany. If it were a bestseller in the United States, there would be a revolution. You can't claim to understand the nature of 9/11 until you read him.

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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:01 AM
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32. Go ahead...


and push your logic to its conclusion and call him a liar... If you dare.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:23 AM
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6. The most secretive administration in U.S. history. And the most lethal.
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 09:25 AM by oasis
:nuke:
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:33 AM
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7. .
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:48 AM
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8. .
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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:59 AM
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9. MADCOW ROCKS!!!
Hopsicker is the man. KICK.


:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:28 AM
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10. Yes sir. nt
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:31 AM
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11. A documentary by Daniel Hopsicker (WMV File)-Download 99.2MB
MOHAMED ATTA AND THE VENICE FLYING CIRCUS
Three of the four terrorist pilots learned to fly in tiny Venice, Florida, a sleepy retirement community with the second oldest population of any city in the entire United States... They attended flight schools owned by two Dutch nationals, one of whom has Mob ties. Did 19 Arab terrorists from desert Kingdoms roam around in Florida as if they'd been listening to Tom Petty albums all their lives all by themselves? Or were they being trained here in a still-secret covert intelligence operation that somehow went horribly wrong?  A documentary by Daniel Hopsicker.
Download 99.2MB

http://www.lastingnetworks.com/alexvideos/flyingcircus256.wmv

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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:44 AM
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12. LOL.
Does Hopsicker think that because these guys were mostly from Saudi Arabia that they'd just hopped off a camel? They were all urban men, mostly with university educations. They would have had no problem "roam around in Florida ... all by themselves." They weren't children, or racially inferior.

My favorite Hopsickerism, from a few years ago: after discovering that somebody's ancestry was part Lebanese and part Sicilian, he concluded that the dude was both in the Mafia *and* in the Lebanese Falange. Guess it's all in the blood.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:51 AM
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13. Remote control since 1984

http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov.nyud.net:8090/Gallery/Photo/CID/Small/ECN-31803.jpg

www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery...index.html



"Before the final flight on December 1, 1984, more then four years of effort passed trying to set-up final impact conditions considered survivable by the FAA. During those years while 14 flights with crews were flown the following major efforts were underway: NASA Dryden developed the remote piloting techniques necessary for the B-720 to fly as a drone aircraft; General Electric installed and tested four degraders (one on each engine); and the FAA refined AMK (blending, testing, and fueling a full size aircraft). The 14 flights had 9 takeoffs, 13 landings and around 69 approaches, to about 150 feet above the prepared crash site, under remote control. "

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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:57 AM
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15. Not any less believable than the story that says these guys
were party animals who suddenly turned into Koran-thumping Muslim extremists who had no qualms about committing suicide if it meant getting 72 virgins in heaven.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:55 AM
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14. Why did ** fly in drug dealer Barry Seal's plane?
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/W_plane.html

Why Does George W. Bush Fly in Drug Smuggler Barry Seal's Airplane?

by
Daniel Hopsicker and Michael C. Ruppert

It has all the makings of a major box office thriller: Texas Governor and Republican Presidential contender George W. Bush and his brother Jeb, allegedly caught on videotape in 1985 picking up kilos of cocaine at a Florida airport in a DEA sting set up by Barry SealÉ

An ensuing murderous cover-up featuring Seal's public assassination less than a year later by a hit teamÉthe members of which, when caught, reveal to their attorneys during trial that their actions were being directed by then, National Security Council (NSC) staffer - Lt. Colonel Oliver NorthÉ

And a private turboprop King Air 200 supposedly caught on tape in the sting with FAA ownership records leading directly to the CIA and some of the perpetrators of the most notorious (and never punished) major financial frauds of the '80s. ÉGreek shippers paying bribes to obtain loans from American companies that would never be repaid.ÉAn American executive snatching the charred remains of a $10,000 payoff check from an ashtray in an Athens restaurantÉSwiss police finding bank accounts used for kickbacks and bribesÉ

Add to this mix the now irrefutable proof, some of it from the CIA itself, that then Vice President George H.W. Bush was a decision maker in illegal Contra support operations connected to the "unusual" acquisition of aircraft and that his staff participated in key financial, operational and political decisionsÉ

All these events lead inexorably to one unanswered question: How did this one plane go from being controlled by Barry Seal, the biggest drug smuggler in American history, to becoming, according to state officials, a favored airplane of Texas Governor George W. Bush?

Continued at above link.....
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:45 PM
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16. Good question.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 01:54 PM
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17. It reminds me of serial killers who keep trophies of their victims.
Hopsicker wrote a whole book on this which I have yet to read. Barry and the Boys.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 02:57 PM
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18. Audio Archives for Dave Emory -w/ Daniel Hopsicker
a couple of interviews discuss this

http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/DX
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:23 PM
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20. Thank you very much! Will listen soon! n/t
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:43 PM
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23. Barry Seal, Lee Harvey Oswald, and David Ferrie. Do a "Google".
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:23 PM
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27. I'm listening to an audio which is part of the Dave Emory archive,
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 04:28 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
and it mentions their connection. It is purported that Barry Seal flew a getaway plane from Dallas on 11/22/63.

Fascinating audio. The subject is Seal's death. He's having trouble with IRS and tells his lawyer to call a number and say that it's him (Seal). The lawyer does it, a woman answers, Vice President Bush's Office. The lawyer tells her he's Seal, and she puts him through to another line. An Admiral Something picks up and says, Hi Barry, how have you been! The lawyer tells the Admiral that he isn't Seal but his lawyer, and the Admiral slams down the phone.
When the IRS raids his property, Seal called up VP Bush and told him to get the IRS off of his ass or he would tell all. 3 weeks later, Seal was murdered. So much more here. Remember Richard Ben Veniste of 9/11 Commission fame? He was one of Seal's lawyers, and Seal was going to turn on him. A must hear.

http://www.wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=14657

Thanks to Al CIAda for the link!
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:00 PM
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19. Oh yeah. One more rec, anyone, to get it to Greatest?
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 03:26 PM
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21. big nom -- we are at a point in the unravelling where details such as this
are available and (finally) being examined. i expect the source of this will be the target of crit, but, you have to distinguish between "matters of fact," and "relations of ideas."

there's no "relation of idea" here. there's reasoning to be faulty. it's just cataloging a "matter of fact," that anyone has access to. it would be nice if abc/cbs/or even comedy central had picked this up first, but they didn't. madcow got the scoop. good for them.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:07 PM
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25. PUT 3M YELLOW STICKERS OVER THEIR FACES!!
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 04:47 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4447706&mesg_id=4447706
http://www.gsnmagazine.com.nyud.net:8090/images/aug_05/atta.jpg
whosinpower (933 posts) Wed Aug-24-05 04:00 PM
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MUST READ - RE: ABLE DANGER INFO
Not sure if this has already been posted - so if it has, my apoligies to the mods -

Must Read! The Neo-Con Able Danger Scandal -- Atta Coverup! UPDATE 4
by Sherlock Google

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678

snip - DIA Agents were ordered to put yellow Post-its over Atta's face and the face's of 3 other 9/11 terrorists

"We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn't exist," the intelligence officer told GSN."

Intel agents Michael Shaffer and Scott Philpott have confirmed Rep. Weldon's claims that a chart with Atta's face, soon the photos of 3 other members of the 9-11 terror team, were known to DIA team Able Danger by early 2000.

This diary will show that Pete Schoomaker and Philip Zelikow are two of the main Perpetraitors in this scandal, that they deliberately withheld information from the President of the United States that would have prevented 9/11, that they and their neo-con rulers Let It Happen On Purpose.

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 04:09 PM
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26. Pete Schoomaker Philip Zelikow Who are they and who are their friends?
:shrug:
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:51 PM
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30. Philip Zelikow was a WH staffer. He and Condi co-wrote a book about
the experience. Later he worked in the WH so that before the 9/11
Commission of which he was Executive Director (and, it is suggested,
the primary literary artist) he appeared as a witness of the activities
he was investigating.

Some people connect Schoomaker to the Waco incident. I haven't
investigated that one yet.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:18 PM
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28. kick!
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 06:22 PM
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29. Hopsicker is really on top of his stuff.
His last three entries at madcow have been devastating!

Anyone who says US 9/11 involvement is limited to negligence just is NOT PAYING ATTENTION!
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 11:14 PM
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31. why were so many FBI at WTC & Pentagon so fast; and suppressing
evidence immediately at both sites.
as documented by 911research.org
etc.
collecting security tapes of private companies at Pentagon as much as a mile away within 15 minutes or so.
suppressing black boxes and other things at WTC.


EMT JOSEPH HENDERSON

Anyway, FDR. There was heavy traffic, a lot of police cars, a lot of FBI cars.
(entering WTC complex)


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