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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:11 AM
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Why so many FBI jump ship after 9/11 crimes?
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/15/national/15brfs.html
WASHINGTON

WASHINGTON: F.B.I. turnover called high The Federal Bureau of Investigation has experienced excessive turnover among senior officials, hampering cooperation with state and local authorities since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, a report said. The senior agents who run the 56 F.B.I. field offices average just 15 months in their jobs before moving to new assignments or leaving the bureau, according to a report by the congressionally chartered National Academy of Public Administration. No senior executive in Washington and only four of the special agents in charge of field offices have been in their jobs longer than the director, Robert S. Mueller III, who started work 10 days before the attacks. (AP)

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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:30 AM
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1. My guess is this:
SunCruz Casinos turns over documents in terrorist probe

TAMPA, Fla. - SunCruz Casinos has turned over photographs and other documents to FBI investigators after employees said they recognized some of the men suspected in the terrorist attacks as customers.
Michael Hlavsa, chairman of the gambling cruise company, said Wednesday two or three men linked to the Sept. 11 hijackings may have been customers on a ship that sailed from Madeira Beach on Florida's gulf coast.
9/26/01 By VICKIE CHACHERE Associated Press Writer and Florida Times-Union

http://www.casinowatch.org/terrorists/terrorists_at_casinos.html

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SunCruz was owned by Jack Abramoff

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53609-2004Jul15.html

You don't have to be much of a conspiracy theorist to see how this could rattle some people inside the FBI. Instead, one only has to believe in what can plainly be seen every day: any information which might impugn the character of the Bush Administration and the Republican Party is sequestered and hidden from public view.

So my guess is that the same thing is happening inside the FBI. As a result, every single day FBI employees are bumping up against an exponentially growing list of information which cannot be accessed because of its political sensitivity. That in turn is hampering the course of ongoing investigations, causing frustration among FBI employees.

I believe but--thanks to that very same secretiveness--cannot prove that some of those investigations are being intentionally hampered.

It occurs to me that such secretiveness, and particularly the news item above, can be used to perpetrate a very open, very honest, and very dirty trick upon the Bush Administration and the Republican Party.

The above is public record, yet there is no mention of it anywhere in the official record as far as I can tell. It appears to have been deliberately left out of the 9/11 Commission Report, for example.

So all one needs to do is find Members of Congress positioned and willing to make a motion in the relevant committees to release all available information on this small facet of the case:

Did the 9/11 terrorists meet on Jack Abramoff's boat on September 5, 2001? Did they ask SunCruz to help them launder their leftover training and ticket money back to al Qaeda, as they began doing that week through other channels? Did they reveal their intent to attack the United States, or was it deduced by SunCruz employees?

The Republicans will reflexively kill the motion. A tipped press can then start asking about it, and the White House will start spinning--"this is part of an ongoing investigation," they'll say.

Ah, but then it's too damned late, 'cause the cat's out of the bag and now the press and the public get to bandy about the most dangerous sound bite that could possibly come out: "Did the White House Let September 11 Happen?"

It doesn't matter whether the answer to the question turns out to be true or false, because either way, the White House will become a victim of its own secrecy. They must respond. They'll either find a legal way to evade the question, or, they'll have to do it the Rove way, by killing the messenger, leaking documents which appear to exonerate the White House, or sidetracking the line of quesitoning.

But any response will fan the flames of conspiracy and mistrust. I seriously doubt that after five years of nondisclosure that the White House and FBI are even capable of releasing what documentation they have. I strongly suspect that continuing investigation will reveal a path of document destruction and cover-up which will further damage them.

And of course, some of the answer to that ultimate question may actually, accidentally, come to light.

As nasty as it is, I think these are fair questions to start asking. Make no mistake: this is an opportunity borne by the overwhelming desire of the White House and the Republican Party to control the public debate through secrecy and cover-up. They could have laughed off such an implication four years ago, but by concealing the very question from the public, they open themselves up to exploitation now.

I hope someone has the balls to do it.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:28 PM
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2. There has been huge purge of non-ideological leaders/analysts at FBI
as well as mass resignations by many not supported of the agenda of those in control of the Admin. and FBI agenda.
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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 05:15 PM
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3. When wil somebody be fired for 9/11 incompetence??
'Robert S. Mueller III, who started work 10 days before the attacks. "

statrt with this guy and work your way up up up..course I do believe that the busheviks did 9/11 with popppy o and his pals calling most of it..BUT if 9/11 was incompemnce then when is somebody gonna be fired??

BTW when is the new improved FBI gonna catch the criminals who did 9/11 ?? they can hear a conversation from miles away and spot your license plate number from miles above earth but cannot find some dying Arab who is 6 ft 6 in and walks alot with an AK 47 over his arm when he is not busy making infomercials for his gangstas or receiving kidney dialsysis..bet the kidney story is pure propaganda..

AL qeada= All CIA Duh
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:23 PM
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4. yeah...

I myself noticed that Mueller took office ten days before the attacks.

It's strange, no?
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 11:25 AM
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5. not necessarily
It usually takes until the fall before all of a new administration's second-level appointments are in office.

Another reason to schedule the big enabling show at that time.

There is little doubt Bobby Three Sticks was brought in because of his Bush machine loyalties and proven abilities to cover up high-level operations (as Massachussetts AG).

I used to know the whole story, too. Anyone recall and save me a trip to my chaotic files?
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