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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:49 PM
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Professor Jones Exposes Controlled Demoltion of WTC on MSNBC
Watch Tucker and how he tries to stop the professor from talking and keeps saying they don't have time for experiments and only has them on very shortly. I was surprised he was on at all!

(video) Link: http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/professor_jones_exposes_controlled_demo.htm
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:51 PM
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1. this one will get locked, too..
people don't care.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:51 PM
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2. thanks for the link (no audio)
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 07:52 PM by bpilgrim
:toast:

peace
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:54 PM
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3. Wow! This is IMPORTANT!! Now we...zzzzzzzz.........nt
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:56 PM
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4. According to his CV, he's also interested in exposing ....
... the true facts of Christ's visit to America.

But still -- he's a physicist!
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:59 PM
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7. LOL
yeah, see what you mean.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:14 PM
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12. Christ's visit to America??
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 08:15 PM by FreedomAngel82
Uhm okay.... :shrug: I just thought the interview was interesting. I do believe there were explosion's in the buildings. From Silverstein's "pull it" to the CBS documentary on the firemen talking about it that never got aired. They talk about hearing bombs go off. How Tucker reacts is very telling as well.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:17 PM
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15. none of the critics ever have any links to back up their nonsense
who can really tell what they are talking about... just the way they like it, probably :shrug:

peace
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:31 AM
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24. Is He a Mormon?
and believes that Jesus visited the twelve lost tribes of Israel, AKA the American Indians, after his resurrection?
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:51 AM
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27. Well, he IS a BYU professor
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 01:54 AM by AntiCoup2K4
Isn't LDS church membership pretty much a prerequisite to being a professor OR a student there?

Something tells me the Busheep would believe his findings about Nephites and Lamanites before they would question the "Official Story (crock of shit) of 9-11".

BTW, it's TWO lost tribes of Israel, not 12. The other 10 weren't lost to begin with, apparently.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:58 PM
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5. Tucker, if you are reading this.... that was a very poor display of
your attempt at being a fair and professional journalist, or whatever you were trying to be.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 07:59 PM
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6. Ever since this thread was brought up about a week ago
I've been reading and I don't personally buy MIHOP.

This Jones guy evidently has some unusual history. Google him. It's interesting.

I'm not letting GWB off the hook regarding 911, but I think it was complacency and not a plan. Did he exploit it and the lives of 3K innocent victims? Sure did.

But there are too many holes, to my non-engineering mind, in this guy's theory and the more we attempt to plug them up, the stranger it gets.
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NorCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:15 PM
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13. I am firmly convinced that the WTC building had explosives in them
and have been for some time. Just because there were explosives in the building doesn't make it MIHOP either, the explosives could have been planted by Al-qaeda as well. All that I usually say, and that Jones is saying, is that the official explanation we all got for why the towers fell is incorrect.

In fact, this guy's theory, which I've seen in several locations (and it's not just HIS theory, many engineering and scientific studies have similar conclusions) has fewer holes in it than the official government theory. For instance, did you know that Jet Fuel burns at around 800C, whereas Steel does not melt until 1535C. Now, the official explanation for this is that the fire was centered in the building and got hotter, but that defies logic. A fire near the center of the building would be oxygen starved and burn cooler (as other studies have suggested). Also, the three towers were the first three steel building IN HISTORY to collapse from Fire Damage.

There is plenty of other information out there, most people tend to do no more than gloss over it, probably because it's too painful to realize the truth. That being said, I suggest looking around a little bit here:
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/index.html

As always, not everything is as believable as some of it, but to me, the footprint collapse of the building, the complete disintegration of the reinforced concrete walls upon collapse, the inability of fire to collapse the building, molten steel found in the wreckage, etc. is a tell-tale sign of foulplay.


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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:17 PM
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16. It was possible to put them in there
I have read that Guiliani got a fifteen minute warning before they went off and it was where his office was and all sorts of important files.
And wasn't Bush's brother Niel in charge of security at the WTC up until 9/11/01? In this case the best thing to do is do the old saying: follow the money. Building seven that was brought down did not have any huge fire to make it collapse and was not hit. Plus, it went down way too perfect.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:23 PM
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22. but remember the 'big lie theory
the big lie theory, as used by hitler, was that the bigger the lie, the easier it was to get away with, the same with the shocking events of 911- our government is simply incapable of doing something so horrible, so it must have been arabs, or whatever. But Lihop doesn't work because of simple logic: how is it that every single element in the rube goldberg plot unfolded exactly as planned? why didn't even one of the wtc 19 call up ny police and tell them 'hey, we supposed to hijack 4 jets, could you guys at least arrest me before that, i'll be at loading gate c at about 630 am'' etcetera ...BUT! even if that part of the scheme went ok, why did the newsmedia obsess with the party line, fixate on the ongoing drama? why didn't anyone suspect, at least, say they did, some inside knowlege, or rogue element of the cia? remember mr kennedy? Most americans doubt the single shooter theory, the very essesnce of so much movies and so on is the 'rogues' within the established natsec system, acting badly, yet... why wasn't the various military exercises that we know were going on, mentioned (i think the pigmedia hasn't mentioned them to this day!) and since then, notice they haven't followed up with any investigations? say of barb olsens phone call to ted olsen, and cnn's link to the wtc 19/osama bin misbehavin! the wtc was a crime scene, yet it was cleared away asap, over 6 months. Yet no news organization said anything (as if that's only proper, let the big boys clean it up)... several of the wtc 19 are still alive today, and, so there weren't '19'hijackers it seems! who made up that number? the fbi? the cia? the same people who lied about wmd's in iraq?
i'd bet bush's nuts the entire thing was a movie shoot, staged electronically, with only 'we the people' left out of the loop...once done, it was so horrific a crime everybody involved in executing it knows it easier just to continue playing along, and of course the pigmedia was all prepared, to run interference on any effort to stray from the script....also remember, the pigmedia has done nothing for years except push bad, very bad, dope....and noone who's bought it is well informed, not even one!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:04 PM
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8. Did you bring enough tinfoil to share with the rest of the class?
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 08:05 PM by IanDB1
Surely you must have seen this thread get locked and moved to The Krackpot Korner at least a dozen times today.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:05 PM
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9. here is his open-source paper ---------- ---------- > LINK
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:13 PM
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11. Do you believe the governments version of 9/11?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:27 AM
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28. No, I don't believe the government's official version. But...
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 11:27 AM by IanDB1
I also don't believe that trained demolitions experts risked getting caught, to sneak around the WTC for days, carefully planting explosive charges, just in case hitting a building with a fully-loaded jumbo jet wouldn't pack enough "oomph."

I'm not going to argue with people about the topic.

I just want to make sure that when outsiders visit this site they see that silly things don't go un-opposed and that all of us do not un-critically accept every conspiracy theory floating around the internets.

There are plenty of real conspiracy theories we need to talk about, and waving this one around just makes us look foolish-- and people will be less likely to take us seriously when we talk about the more likely conspiracies.

I give the "Explosives in the tower" theory about a 0.005% chance of being true. Slightly more likely than the "Dick Cheney is an android" theory.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:18 PM
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17. No sorry I didn't see it
I was at class and didn't see it.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:13 PM
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10. Was Jones involved with the Cold Fusion Project? n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:19 PM
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18. I don't think so
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 08:20 PM by FreedomAngel82
:shrug: I just think he's reporting it. I think he reports anything and everything dealing with the government. It's up to you to figure out what's true or not.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:20 PM
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19. If so, he isn't a reliable source and should be ignored. n/t
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 11:44 PM
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29. Can you explain that?
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:35 PM
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23. Yes
http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/bergeson/physics1/atomic/jones_cv.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion

and in 2004:

""There's really a lot going on that looks very favorable," Jones
said of the field today. "But it's not given a fair chance in the
journals"
http://www.physics-talk.com/Cold-fusion-research-isnt-frozen-6947754.html

and then of course, there's this:
http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/jones/rel491/handstext%20and%20figures.htm
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:40 AM
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26. Oh you mean Professor Jones
Sorry, I thought you meant Alex Jones. :blush:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:17 PM
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14. I saw that last night and I thought it was very rude of Tucker to
cut him off like that. It's like he only had three minutes to give his explanation. Imo, the guy shouldn't have agreed to appear on the show if he didn't get at least 12-15 minutes to speak.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 08:21 PM
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20. I agree
Very interesting of how Tucker reacted. He was totally nervous too. Probably worried his show might get cut off. I wonder how this guy got on his show in the first place. I would've gone on Olbermann's show first.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:03 PM
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21. Prof. Jones needs to learn to talk in TV soundbites, he was way too
rambling for today's fast paced hit-and-run news and talking head shows.

Plus, they obviously had no intention of showing the clip he sent before his intv.

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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 01:38 AM
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25. All libs need to shout over Rethugs when they begin to sound coherent
and learn to speak like Pigman and inHannity. It works, sad but true.
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