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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:13 PM
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Pakistani ISI money trail, NSA and other 9/11 oddities
This sank like a rock in GD -- not even enough notice to get banished!

The super secret NSA has a range of technological capacity for eavesdropping that most of us could not even imagine -- the ability to pick up phone conversations with satellites, and super computers to sort through the data. That's what makes the warrantless surveillance of American citizens so scary.

But some people who should have been targets of the NSA made things too easy and somehow their nefarious conversations did not lead to effective counter-terrorism actions.

Take Hani Hanjour, one of the 9/11 hijackers. On the night of September 10, 2001, Hanjour took a room in a hotel next door to the NSA, yet they failed to surveille him and prevent his hijacking the next day. According to the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/2033791.stm

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In fact, one of the most bizarre ironies of all this is that five of the hijackers lived in a motel right outside the gates of the NSA.

Early on the morning of 11 September, when Hani Hanjour and his four accomplices left the Valencia Motel on US route 1 on their way to Washington's Dulles airport, they joined the stream of NSA employees heading to work.

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Perhaps Hanjour was still below the NSA's radar screen, even though US intelligence had indeed surveilled Mohammed Atta earlier through the Abel Danger program.

Even so, they might have surveilled neighboring hotels because by some other bizarre coincidence, a Saudi official implicated in spreading radical Islam in the US and funding terrorism just happened also to be at a hotel, next door to the NSA, where hijackers were also staying the night of 9/10. According to the Telegraph of London:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/10/03/wsaud03.xml&sSheet=/portal/2003/10/03/ixportal.html

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A senior Saudi Arabian official, now minister for the holy places, stayed at the same hotel as three September 11 hijackers the night before the suicide attacks.

American investigators are trying to make sense of the disclosure that Saleh Ibn Abdul Rahman al-Hussayen, who returned to Saudi Arabia shortly after the attacks, stayed at the Marriott Residence Inn in Herndon, Virginia.

Three of the attackers stayed at the hotel that night and crashed a plane into the Pentagon the following day.

Mr Hussayen became president of the affairs of the Holy Mosque in Mecca and the Prophet's Mosque in Medina, the two most sacred sites in Islam, five months after the attacks.

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But investigators are pooling what they know about his trip to North America, during which he allegedly visited or contacted several Saudi-sponsored charities now accused of links to terrorist groups. There is no suggestion that he knew of any such links.

US prosecutors say Mr Hussayen was a financial backer of a Michigan-based group, the Islamic Assembly of North America, which is accused of disseminating the teachings of two Saudi clerics who advocate violence against the United States.

His nephew, Sami Omar Hussayen, a computer student, is in federal detention in Idaho on charges of visa fraud, accused of failing to disclose his role as an internet webmaster for IANA.

US court filings say the younger Hussayen administered an internet site for IANA that expressly advocated suicide attacks and using airliners as weapons. IANA received about £2 million from abroad since 1995, court papers allege, including £60,000 from Saleh al-Hussayen.

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Mr Lindquist said: "We're investigating the IANA. We have the money flowing to the IANA through the nephew from the uncle. We have the uncle visiting the United States just prior to September 11, and upon his return to the East Coast he's in the same hotel as the hijackers. According to FBI agents he feigns a seizure. It is something that we cannot ignore."

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The FBI wanted to interview Mr. Hussayen, but he feigned a seizure, was taken to the hospital where he was told there was nothing wrong with him, and he was allowed to leave the US when air traffic resumed.

The NSA targets foreign intelligence organizations also, but the head of one foreign intelligence organization also made surveillance stupifyingly easy.

Lt. Gen. Mahmood Ahmad, was then the director general or Pakistan's CIA, it's Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI). Gen. Ahmad had ordered that $100,000 be wired to Mohammed Atta about a year before 9/11, which Atta then used for flight school tuition, when the "Islamic fundamentalist" was not using his funds on booze, coke, hookers, lingerie models and lap dances.

Gen. Ahmad ordered an operative, known as Ahmad Umar Sheikh (as well as Saeed Sheikh and several other names), a British citizen of Pakistani descent, famed as a kidnapper and economic wiz, to wire the money from the United Arab Emirates. Gen. Ahmad had been the main conduit of funds from the US through Pakistan, to the mujahedeen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan, and later the paymaster of al Queda and the Taliban through one of the ISI's directorate called "Army of Islam."

Gen. Ahmad made surveillance of his communications and activities shockingly easy by flying to Washington on September 6, 2001 and meeting directly with his counterparts at the Pentagon, CIA, National Security Council and State Department. Indeed, on the morning of 9/11 as the planes hit the twin towers, the al Queda paymaster was having breakfast with Sen. Bob Graham, head of the Senate Intelligence Committee and Rep. Porter Goss, Chair of the House Intelligence Committee. Goss, recall was representative of a district that was adjacent to the county on the gulf coast of Florida where Mohammed Atta attended flight school and would be appointed head of the CIA when the US reorganized its intelligence agencies.

Gen. Ahmed stayed around conveniently after 9/11 to discuss Pakistan's role in cooperating with the "war on terror" in Afghanistan with the State Department and Pentagon.

The 9/11 Commission claims that the source of funding of the hijackers is not an important and misidentified Sheikh as an Egyptian. But the Wall St. Journal and Times of India were hot on this story in late 2001 and early 2002 because it was the smoking gun that linked Pakistan to the hijackers, which directly contradicts the 9/11 Commission view that the only state sponsor of the attacks was Afghanistan.

Unfortunately, the Wall St. Journal reporter responsible for this reporting was Daniel Pearl. As he tracked the story to Lahore Pakistan, he was kidnapped and beheaded by none other than Saeed Sheikh.

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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:43 PM
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1. From the Congressional Record...
THE 9/11 COMMISSION FINAL REPORT ONE YEAR LATER -- HON. CYNTHIA McKINNEY (Extensions of Remarks - October 27, 2005)

Mr. JOHN NEWMAN: An FBI team working with cell phone numbers provided by Indian intelligence uncovered a new smoking gun. They learned that the chief of the ISI, Mahmood Ahmed, had ordered Saeed Sheikh to send $100,000 of the kidnapping ransom to Mohamed Atta a month before the 9/11 attacks. This ugly detail emerged when the FBI team ran traces on Saeed Sheikh's cell phone number beginning in July; the ISI chief's number was among the regular people that Saeed Sheikh communicated with. On October 7th, President Musharraf sacked Ahmed for this notorious act. This story was widely covered in the press around the world, not covered here in the United States ..... It's hard to imagine a revelation more damaging than the fact that Pakistan's intelligence service and most powerful Army commanders were behind the 9 /11 attacks and the paymaster, a known terrorist who had been able to carry out his mission because the U.S. and U.K. had set aside justice for his crimes ..... that a sovereign government and supposed ally was so directly involved in the 9/11 atrocity must have stunned and deeply embarrassed the American Administration ..... The story of Saeed Sheikh and the generals are only lightly covered in western media, and only one American newspaper, the Wall Street Journal, carried it on October 10th.

The 9/11 Commission report which carries Mustafa al-Hawsawi as the paymaster and Sheikh Saeed as the al-Qaeda CFO, has dodged the issue, and does not say if the two are the same or not. Thus, technically, even if the Commission staff knew the truth, they have not told a bald lie. The Administration officials speak on terms of anonymity and were told that the Justice Department had pressed the National Security Council to have Saeed Sheikh extradited. One might be justified in asking the question why would the National Security Council have to be pressed to extradite a murderer of U.S. citizens? By late February <2002>, the issue was moot. Pearl was murdered, and Musharraf swore he would personally hang him before turning him over to the Americans, unlike Khalid Shaikh Mohammed and Ramzi bin al-Shibh, whom he did turn over. Of course, they had not been western penetrators of al-Qaeda ..... We can no longer say we are protecting sources and methods about a story known to the rest of this planet. We are now mocked for our ignorance about this story, and even members of Britain's Parliament poke fun at us. It is long past time to come clean about Saeed Sheikh.
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:45 PM
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2. Thank you Hamden.
The ISI connection would be a devastating thing for the 911
Commission and the Bush Administration if only the corporate media wasn't criminally comlicit.
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SittingBull Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 12:57 PM
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3. a must read - for money trail
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-08-06 02:18 PM
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4. And then factor in Ptech -
then you have a lot of networked computers in important places running "business-blueprint/risk-management" software produced by a corporation that is run and financed by Saudis with connections to terrorism.

Ptech was raided by the FBI at some point, it has since changed its name to "Go Agile" (www.goagile.com).

Among Ptech's clients are: IBM, Federal Aviation Agency, Sysco, Motorola, Honeywell, Internal Revenue Service, ABN-AMRO, Sprint, United States Postal Service, House of Representatives, United States Senate, Executive Office of the President, Secret Service, Department of Navy, Air Force, NATO, Mitre, FBI.


Sibel Edmonds confirms the bigger picture of this, not specific to Ptech:
Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344

Indira Singh has the details on Ptech:
Indira Singh testimony and interviews
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=344x4
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pauldp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-09-06 03:15 AM
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5. Link to Times of India article
apparently John S Pistole, deputy assistant director of FBI’s counter-terrorism division was silent about the money trail back to Gen Ahmad.
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Indian authorities also told the US that the trail led back from Sheikh to the then chief of ISI, Lt Gen Mahmud Ahmad who was subsequently forced to retire by Pakistan president Pervez Musharraf. The FBI had been provided with the details, including Sheikh’s mobile numbers. But Pistole’s testimony is silent on these issues.
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=107432
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