Our Finest Hour

[Jon Gold]

http://www.yourbbsucks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7827

[SittingBull]

1. Thx Jon!

for putting this together. And don't forget this stuff:

Indeed, the Bush administration is now using 9/11 as an excuse for domestic spying without warrant, and will use 9/11 as an excuse for every other unconstitutional, undemocratic, unAmerican action which it takes.

Imagine, if you would, that you were a citizen in Germany right after the Reichstag fire had occurred. As you might know, the Reichstag fire was the burning down of the German parliament building by Hitler's men, which was then blamed on the communists in order to justify wars against neighboring countries. Do you believe you could have stopped the government from torturing communists after the Reichstag fire, by convincing people that Germans are a good people who do not torture others? Do you think that you could have prevented the spread of disinformation about the hostile intentions and military capabilities of ther countries? Do you imagine you could have stopped the brownshirts and loss of domestic rights? I believe not, not without first exposing that the Reichstag fire - the single thing which allowed the German parliament and other institutions to hand Hitler total power. The German's were in shock, and rallied around their "strong" leader.

Similarly, Americans are crazed by the fear of Arab terrorists just like Germans were terrified of communist terrorists. Both peoples have handed over all of their power to their leaders in order to buy an imaginary security.

The Nazis might have been brought to justice well before the Nuremberg trials if the Reichstag hoax had been exposed at the time.

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2005/12/letter-to-barbara-boxer.html

[DemInDistress]

2. good post JonGold and welcome to DU

:hi: :hi: :hi:

[Christophera]

3. If Jon Can Do it, I can Do it. THX Jon Gold! Inspiring Stuff.

Saying the pledge was always a chore. I won’t do it anymore, haven’t for 6 years.

I never liked sports, it looked like a quasi military training exercise to me when I was 8. I’m always disturbed when I see Americans distracted by pursuits of happiness before taking care of the vital business of life. I remember when our president was shot and nobody found out who or why.

I was proud of America when my father told me about the creation of the reconstruction era civil rights laws and how the ENTIRE world noticed and honored this nation for those legal actions pursuant to the principles of the republic.

Since 1971, 18, I have always voted. In 1985 I realized when the Iran Contra Affair became known

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran-Contra_Affair

that the military government, secret intelligence government, fomented by, during and because of the cold war was out of control.

I understood that it is our agreement in this democratic controlled republic that gives us our power as a group of people and sought to find an agreement that all humanity might create which will show how this can unify us and inspire people.

Needs are finite and wants are infinite. Reasonable people should be able to agree upon what their needs are, if they start with the most fundamental needs first. Defining those is simple logic.

First, your life is a need, #1. Without that none of this matters. To maintain your life you will need air, #2. Reasonable people understand that conditions vary greatly and a person could die from exposure before they die of thirst, but also they easily recognize that water. #3, will always be needed.

Above is a limited list of absolutely shared needs reasonably defined and presented. We do agree upon it but utterly fail (until now perhaps) to recognize that our simple agreement is our power and that all we need to do is share it and logically work from that foundation upward, together into the complexity that our government represents in its ideal service to our society. Therefore we have no power. This agreement I describe is basically, natural law.

I have been trying since 1985 to assemble human beings who can understand this simple concept and form a permanent, expanding agreement to act tangibly in any fashion as a political force separate from any party, inclusive of all parties and democratically reinstate the principles of the republic to protect the futures of our children. The inability of people to either understand or take meaningful action on this can only be due to unconscious programming inherent to our culture and society as a society guided by fear. Fear makes power a false need. Power is valued over life when fear rules us. This is our reptilian instinct controlling our mind.

Reptiles do not have courage and will not act as a group defending each other. Our human society has been turned into this by the imposition of fear by despotic authority disguised in benevolence. We are all betrayed children. And, ........ it will probably turn out that they did it because they were afraid.

Our enemy is fear.

The fear that assaults us now is a non violent social fear, totally unreasonable. A fear of rejection or ridicule. A fear of being perceived as weak or incompetent.

If I say, “Please, everyone reading; IF; Life , Air and Water are the most valuable things to you, THEN; visit my page about “Optimization”

http://algoxy.com/psych/optimize_for_peace.html

read it and email me your phone number so we can talk about how to use and expand this understanding.

Here is where you get to the feel the fear inside of yourself from your unconscious programming, the cultural, emotional familial deprivations, abuses resulting from the environment of fear.

IF; you don’t read the page and email your number to me so the expansion of understanding can better empower a resolution of unreasonable fear, THEN; you are responding with your reptilian instincts. This is natural and easy, we have developed mechanisms that work with distorting perceptions through attitudes, most everybody in our society does it. I do it every day as a matter of coexisting with others in a society that has this default, individual(s) “internal relationship”.

or

IF; you read and understand the simple logic employed in the strategy defined over the algoxy.com site and realize that I am doing what I’m doing here with my mammalian instincts that employ respect for absolute reasoning, or that, those instincts have greater control and facility with cognition or as that relates to cooperation than do the reptilian, also that the mammalian unconscious skills of reading facial expressions, inflections and tones of voice as telltales to the truth the other expresses (not present here but assumed the reader will acknowledge) as reading/expressing contributes to our family and cultural/social existence. THEN; you will email me your phone number and we will talk and get started on expanding this simple understanding of our fundamental needs and just how powerful that is.

What controls you? How much integrity do you have to react to written words on the web as related to fundamental social principles vs. your fundamental purposes for living?

Or

IF; you don't believe there was a concrete core will you still recognize we have this agreement built in and all we need to do is use it democratically to assure life, air and water by prioritizing truth in 9-11 as the first step? This means all the non profits collecting tax exempted $ need to be compelled to focus on this by a group using their mammalian instincts in a communication wave directed from the 9-11 movement outward. We need control of media for their purposes, our purposes. THEN; ................. do that!

Lastly; If it is none of the above, you might wonder why and if you think you know and can reasonably describe it, tell me.