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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:07 AM
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BYU professor's group accuses U.S. officials of lying about 9/11
The group's charges include:

• Members of the Bush administration knew in advance that the 9/11 attacks would happen but did nothing to stop them.

• No Air Force or Air National Guard jets were sent to "scramble" the hijacked planes, which were clearly deviating from their flight plans, although jet fighters had been deployed for scramblings 67 times in the year prior to 9/11. The procedure for issuing orders for scrambling was changed in June 2001, requiring that approval could only come from the Secretary of Defense, but Donald Rumsfeld was not alerted soon enough on 9/11, according to Scholars group.

• The video of Osama bin Laden found by American troops in Afghanistan in December 2001, in which bin Laden says he orchestrated the attacks, is not bin Laden. The Scholars for 9/11 Truth compared the video with a photo of the "real" bin Laden and argue that there are discrepancies in the ratio of nose-length to nose-width, as well as distance from tip-of-nose to ear lobe.
The Scholars group hopes that media outlets around the world will ask experts in their areas to examine the group's findings and assertions. If this were done, they argue, "one of the great hoaxes of history would stand naked before the eyes of the world."
The group also asks for an investigation of the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings, following up on points made in Jones's paper, "Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?" That paper, recently updated, has been posted on Jones's BYU Web site since last November.
Jones argues that the WTC buildings did not collapse due to impact or fires caused by the jets hitting the towers but collapsed as a result of pre-positioned "cutter charges." Proof, he says, includes:

• Molten metal was found in the subbasements of WTC sites weeks after 9/11; the melting point of structural steel is 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit and the temperature of jet fuel does not exceed 1,800 degrees. Molten metal was also found in the building known as WTC7, although no plane had struck it. Jones's paper also includes a photo of a slag of the metal being extracted from ground zero. The slag, Jones argues, could not be aluminum from the planes because in photographs the metal was salmon-to-yellow-hot temperature (approximately 1,550 to 1,900 degrees F) "well above the melting temperatures of lead and aluminum," which would be a liquid at that temperature.

• Building WTC7 collapsed in 6.6 seconds, which means, Jones says, that the steel and concrete support had to be simply knocked out of the way. "Explosive demolitions are like that," he said. "It doesn't fit the model of the fire-induced pancake collapse."

• No steel-frame, high-rise buildings have ever before or since been brought down due to fires. Temperatures due to fire don't get hot enough for buildings to collapse, he says.

• Jones points to a recent article in the journal New Civil Engineering that says WTC disaster investigators at NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and Technology) "are refusing to show computer visualizations of the collapse of the Twin Towers despite calls from leading structural and fire engineers."

lots more
http://kcindymedia.org/newswire/display/10659/index.php
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:10 AM
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1. I would be suspicious of anything from a BYU Professor
Edited on Mon Jan-30-06 12:53 PM by leftyladyfrommo
Having live in LSC for several years. That university is not known for much except its language programs.

Their missionaries are trained there and they need to speak a lot of languages.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:35 PM
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4. ACCEPT its language programs?
Don't you mean EXCEPT??

LOL
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:52 PM
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8. Yes! OOPS - will go back and edit.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 11:13 AM
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2. 1 & 2 are good points, the rest is assinine
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:35 PM
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5. What makes you think so?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:30 PM
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3. Come on. We have the 9-11 Konspiracy Korner for this nonsense.
Mormons, as we all know, are world famous for their skepticism and critical evaluation of extraordinary claims.

This thread topic has been locked-up in the basement more times than Barbara Asher's clients.

It belongs in the 9-11 Konspiracy Korner group where it won't embarrass us.


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:37 PM
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6. Yep keep covering it up
Why it can't even be posted in GD right here on a PROGRESSIVE website. For shame!!
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wtbymark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 12:45 PM
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7. and my post---- lost in the wind
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:04 PM
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9. This was inside job!
This really isn't a theories at all. If DUer don't want to believe that this government wasn't complicit in the attacks on 9-11 so be it.

But Ive done the research, and I have come to the conclusion that this Admin was complicit on 9-11.
Let me say this, I didn't want to believe that this was possible. I had a difficult time coming to grips with the facts, but I have come to this conclusion after many many hours of research that this government had prior knowledge of the attacks on 9-11, and were directly involved.

For those that don't believe that 9-11 was an inside job, do this one thing. Find a video of bldg #7 and watch it collapse, no one can explain why it collapsed, and no one can explain how it collapsed in it's on footprint just like a planned demo of a high rise building. Then ask your self this, why did the 9-11 commission not even mention this building in their report? Then ask yourself this, If this building was "Pulled" as the owner of the building stated, how did the explosives get set in Building in just five hours? It takes two to three weeks to set explosive charges in this type of structure, they "The Admin" had to have had prior knowledge of the September 11,2001 attacks.
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