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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:25 PM
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Why did the Pentagon fabricate photos following the attack on 9/11?
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:30 PM
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1. this guy
also thinks the apollo missions were a hoax so i dont know how reliable he really is.
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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:33 PM
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2. You won't even defend your beloved Snopes.com
How credible are you???
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:38 PM
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3. i believe
i believe the scopes site is right. far more correct than your vanity site.

now will you STFU about it on threads that have nothing to do with scopes?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:43 PM
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 01:47 PM
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5. i have done so
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 01:51 PM by sabbat hunter
when you stop using your vanity site as a form of "proof" or research?

go read up on what proof and research actually mean then get back to me.

i have answered you multiple times.

so i have put up multiple times.

you want to call me out fine. then i will call you and your worthless vanity site out each time as well.

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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:47 PM
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8. Have you looked at the photos?
The set with the cars next to the impact site are fairly convincing there was some fakery going on.
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:12 PM
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11. which proves what
Let's say you could show that some of the trauma photos were staged, or shot at a later date, or photoshopped. Jack White fails to do this, but let's pretend he does.

This proves what?

This helps us show inside job? How? This helps us get an investigation and more disclosure on 9/11? How?

This has what effect on the public?

Tangential, poorly argued, alienating to the public, irrelevant to the case - a complete waste, to the detriment of all the hard work people have put into this movement.

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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 03:01 PM
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6. So you believe the Apollo missions were faked? nt
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 04:46 PM
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7. Actually I've looked at the arguments that the landings were hoax
and although at first blush the idea that the moon landings were faked seems totally wacky-- there are some good reasons to think they were faked.

I don't really wish to get into a discussion of this here though. You can do your own reading on this.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:32 PM
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14. Is there any level of foolishness you won't believe?
You actually think the moon landings were faked?
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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 05:07 PM
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9. one quick glance observation
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 05:16 PM by graphixtech
According to White's bio there, he has worked as an "art director,
designer, photographer and director" for major advertising projects
since 1950.
http://www.911studies.com/911photostudies1.htm

In my opinion, this is not the work of a person who has
ever been an art director. There are a number of clear
indications of this. The website color pallette is terribly
mismatched. An orange green gradient, pastel colors, carnival
blue information box, and poor typography would never have
been approved by a self respecting jr. designer, let alone
an ex art director.


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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:07 PM
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10. Oh come on Jan
Lots of art directors suck.

Just as lots of artists, photographers, film directors, published writers, journalists, etc. suck.

(These realities have over the years raised my appreciation of athletes, by the way. If they win, by definition they did not suck in winning, and if they suck, they lose.)

Jack White - what an eyesore of bad logic. In every single "analysis".

So what's up with those running the "scholar" site?! Fetzer I can imagine is an idiot, but has Griffin looked at this? Jones?

Hufschmid, of course, this stuff is right up his alley.

Really depressing - a timebomb has been inserted into our movement.
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PerpetualYnquisitive Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 08:45 PM
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12. Mmmmm, timebomb.
Really depressing - a timebomb has been inserted into our movement.


Care to share with us when you are set to "Go Off"?

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graphixtech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 09:23 PM
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13. With due respect Nick
Edited on Fri Feb-03-06 10:02 PM by graphixtech
Of course there are different levels of skill, but basic
rules of design are usually not broken. As a designer,
I have worked with a variety of art directors and
in my professional opinion, this person does not
have a formal background in that profession.

Check your PM.


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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 08:25 AM
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15. White is way off on the WTC6 explosion
Though it does look like something odd happened at WTC6, the dust cloud that White identifies as an explosion at WTC6 is obviously the result of the collapse of WTC2. This can be easily verified by looking at available video footage (ie the 911eyewitness video).

White does not look like a thrustworthy source.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 01:29 PM
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17. Thrustworthy?
Is that anything like sponge-worthy? :)

(I just found that particular typo to be amusing - I'm not criticizing your spelling - we all make those kinds of mistakes.)

I agree with you about Jack White - some of his information is definitely misleading. Personally I think it is deliberate, but that's difficult to know for sure. If it is not deliberate, at least negligent in not verifying some of the information being used.

Regarding the WTC6 "explosion", Dave Von Kleist did a segment on that very issue in his In Plane Site Update
(available for download here). I mention this because near the beginning of the video it shows the actual CNN footage where the screen-capture used by Jack White came from - makes it very clear that the dust cloud is actually from the collapse of the South Tower.

- Make7
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-08-06 11:41 AM
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16. One error right off the bat:
Look at the bottom left photo in this page. The sidewalk is level with the grassy area.

Look at the bottom right photo. The area of the sidewalk with the guardrail is elevated (which makes sense).

These are photos of two different areas. Why the site author, with ALL of his qualifications, didn't realize that I can only surmise. :eyes:


More blatant CT misrepresentation.
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