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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:16 PM
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Why do I get the funny feeling
that this whole Iraq investigation on WMD and is being turned on the CIA when most of us feel the administration has more responsibility for the misinformation? Now the WH announced in a press release to CNN that they are acknowledging there may have been no WMD just as this Kay guy is coming forward to the media blaming the CIA? Is this administration going to make the CIA the scapegoat/fallguy?
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pnziii Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:21 PM
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1. Yes!
Rumsfeld has been trying to get the Pentagon to do more "CIA" type work. If they can place the blame for 9/11 and the WMD's on the CIA then they can get congress to allow the Pentagon to do more. The Pentagon and the Military indutrial complex is getting more and more power. That's what it's all about.

PNAC's goal is to make America a super Military power. They can't do that unless they also have the power at home to begin with.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:24 PM
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2. I could have told you that
last year. Cheney tried to make them the scape goat for 9/11 and wmds. He pressured CIA to give them the go ahead. It was never about wmd's. It was always about oil and getting Saddam. The bully's in the administration are not getting caught and I really believe that people see through them.
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:24 PM
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3. I think the CIA should get a lot of blame
For a decade or so, the US, the UN, and large parts of the rest of the world have been saying Iraq has WMD's based in part on intelligence gathered the CIA and other counties "CIA" departments.

The CIA's job is to monitor and gather information about other countries. It sure seems they have been played the fool for years.

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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:27 PM
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4. As long as good ol' George Tenent
continues to bend over for his masters, yes, hell yes - the CIA has been neutered by the bushies - they are so pitiful; what sticks in my mind more than anything is Tenent's face as he was sitting behind the liar Powell when he gave his notorious speech and flashed the "vial of anthrax" around at the UN. Is Tenent so hard up for a job?
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SpaceCatMeetsMars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:48 PM
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9. Tenent's expressions were undercutting Powell so much at that speech
that he might as well have been wearing a t-shirt that pointed at Powell and said, "I'm with Stupid. Don't listen to him."
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misterphelps Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:28 PM
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5. possible backlash
After the Niger story broke, there were a few intelligence people who publicly came out to repute the intelligence used to justify war. If the CIA becomes the official fall guy, there may be further breaking of ranks, particularly if there's the smell of Bush blood in the water.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:33 PM
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6. What I'm worried about is the Truth Uncovered people
who spoke about all of this in that video who were CIA people. Can they get in trouble for speaking out like they did?
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:34 PM
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7. I remember at the time when CIA director took the blame for intelligence
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 12:39 PM by patricia92243
Bush used to go to war. Andrea Mitchell reported that the CIA Head Guy (can't remember his name) but anyhow, the head guy was the very one who spoke the strongest AGAINST the information. Another announcer said "He fell on his sword like a good soldier and took the blame". To protect George, of course.

This stuff can be dug up out of archives. MS NBC - I think. Andrea Mitchel is a pub - and if she said the CIA agent was not to blame - it is true.
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adriennel Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 12:38 PM
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8. no one to blame but BushCo
their scapegoat will be the CIA and Intelligence community. I hope this story riles up some of the hard-working people in those agencies.

I can't believe that Kay's statement that the President was not to blame, but rather the intelligence community, and the GOP still had problems with Kay's statement. wtf?

by blaming faulty intelligence and agencies, Bush is distancing himself from the Iraq initiative he loves so much.

However, as Commander in Chief, does not the President have a responsibility to review intelligence reports before calling the nation to war? We can't let this Bush team to convince the US that intelligence is to blame, the President is not. The President and his advisors approved the intelligence findings(and fabricated some)and still decided to go to war.

If the intelligence was faulty in the first place, why follow it?

Because BushCo has been planning this war in Iraq since the 1990s, intelligence was used in anyway possible to support this effort. At that point in time, BushCo found it more important to highlight false intelligence that supported their goals as opposed to proven intelligence that may run counter to BushCo's world domination ambitions.
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