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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:27 AM
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9/11 Rescuer Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby
Yet another story NOT IN THE 9/11 COMMISSION FINAL REPORT.

9/11 Rescuer Saw Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby

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Cars Blowing Up

KT: What did you do when the South Tower started coming down?

PO: I didn't know what was happening, but there was a loud "roar" -- lots of crashing sounds. I was attempting to put my stretcher back into the vehicle. The ground was shaking and I saw a sea of people, mostly the various agencies on scene, Fire, Police, EMS, all running towards me. I had no idea what they were running from, but I decided I'd be ahead of them and just started running west towards the river. As I was running, parked cars were blowing up and some were on fire, the street was cracking a bit as well. Very shortly after I started running, everything became one big black cloud. I was near the West Side Highway and I couldn't see around me anymore.

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Explosions Inside WTC 6 Lobby

KT: You mentioned you were running west on Vesey Street, what happened after that?

PO: I just kept running. I was aware there were other people running as well. After passing the cars on fire, I was trying to find someplace safe. I tried to run into the lobby of 6 World Trade, but there were federal police -- maybe 4 to 6 of them -- standing in the open doorways. As I tried to run in, they wouldn't let me, waving me out, telling me "you can't come in here, keep running." As I turned to start running west again, I saw a series of flashes around the ceiling of the lobby all going off one-by-one like the X-mass lights that "chase" in pattern. I think I started running faster at that point.

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:26 PM
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1. OMG
There's your hole. Good find!
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:28 PM
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2. federal police?
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 01:05 PM by mirandapriestly
would that be FBI? WHY is no one accountable for this? Geez...
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:34 PM
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3. Oh, that was what Killtown had - it is worth the wait!
Man, that is just, wow... everyone read the whole thing
(Sorry to keep posting)
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 12:54 PM
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4. A "piece of the plane" I don't think so...
"Not on 9/11, but a bit after one day I was doing standby and there was a long flatbed truck bringing out a long piece of silver and charred metal, probably the length of 2 passenger cars, that one of the police officers doing standby detail with us brought to my attention and he said it was a piece of the plane."
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:29 PM
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5. Pop, pop, pop also heard by Joseph Pfeiffer
"Then we got up and we couldn't see, but it started to clear to like a brown, cloudy smoke, and I hear this pop, pop, pop which sounded like gunfire to me."
Joseph Pfeiffer Batallion Chief
What's weird is Pfeiffer saw an "agitated man handcuffed by "agitated" police shortly after the first collapse. Now what could someone be getting arrested for just then??
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/9110138.PDF

This is from Killtown interview:
KT: Did you think these explosions in the lobby were maybe lights popping out as in an electrical surge, or did they seem more like explosives going off in a timed manner?

PO: I immediately got the impression they were timed explosives. I have never thought they were anything else, not then, not now.

KT: Have you ever seen a building being demolished with explosives on TV and was the flashes and pops similar to that?

PO: It did remind me of just that. I had seen something on a Las Vegas casino being demolished and that's what it reminded me of.

KT: Can you try to describe what these "pops" you heard sounded like?

PO: They sounded like light bulbs popping, but there were no light fixtures where the explosions were coming from. The sound was not all that loud.

KT: Do you think these explosions you witnessed were loud enough to be heard on the street?

PO: Because of everything going on, I don't think these "pops" could have been heard from the street. It was definitely louder outside as a whole.

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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:08 AM
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6. Did they rig the cars in front of WTC 6 to keep people away?
That's the only conclusion I can think of to explain what would cause all these cars to catch on fire and blow up along the 6 building. Seems they rig the cars to blow to keep people like Ms. Ondrovic from seeing what she saw inside the lobby of the 6.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:59 AM
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7. That explanation makes the most sense, on a more diabolical
note, I wonder if it was to get rid of witnesses. I don't think it was unintentional. I can't help but think that they were telling her (and others) to "go back in" to kill witnesseses! I've started to read the task force interviews again, including hers, and I can't believe how much ignored information is in there!
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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:01 PM
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8. I just can't wait to hear how the gov't hacks on this site
are going to spin Ms. Ondrovic's eyewitness accounts like the cars blowing up! I bet they stay away from this smoking gun like the plague!
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:06 PM
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9. Instead they are trying to sink the thread by creating
"hey look over there! posts. I noticed that as soon as this appeared.
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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:08 PM
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10. I noticed that too!!!
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:22 PM
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12. Gov't hacks?
You think there are govenment hacks on this site?

Names names please.
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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:24 PM
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14. You don't know your own name?
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:12 PM
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11. I emailed Patricia and got a return email!
She said the person who told her to "go back in" was someone she had known before; it was a union rep, so I don't know how likely it would be that he would be "in on it". I didn't approach it from that angle, because it sounded like she had been through such hell. She doesn't want to speculate on a lot of what happened like seeing more than one plane, because it was so long ago and she doesn't want it to get spun the wrong way. I think this shows that what she told you in the interview, Killtown, was not a mistaken or blurry memory.
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seatnineb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:38 PM
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16. You are onto something Killtown........great work!

Another fireman came in and tried to call home as well, when suddenly someone yelled, "Building coming down, clear out," and there was a rush of people outside, firemen and police running past, and the three of us tried to get out. I slipped and fell on the wet floor, then got back up and ran after the cop. There was the sound of an explosion behind us, but the building didn't come down.
On the roof of the police station next door I could see snipers, poking their rifles through crevices, even though there didn't seem to be anything to point them at. By then all the roads and subways were closed off and, though I had gathered up my reporter pads and recorder,

http://www.tnr.com/092401/grann092401.html.

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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:24 PM
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13. flashes around the ceiling
are now called explosions as well?

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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 01:26 PM
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15. I knew they'd come a rushing in sooner or later!
Gee LARED, what do you called flashes in a timed sequence that make popping sounds?
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LARED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 03:03 PM
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17. I might call them
lights exploding from an electrical surge, or short circuit.

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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 12:55 PM
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23. LAREDY, LARDEY, LARDEY
You should read the entire interview before making a statement about it:

KT: Did you think these explosions in the lobby were maybe lights popping out as in an electrical surge, or did they seem more like explosives going off in a timed manner?

PO: I immediately got the impression they were timed explosives. I have never thought they were anything else, not then, not now.

KT: Have you ever seen a building being demolished with explosives on TV and was the flashes and pops similar to that?

PO: It did remind me of just that. I had seen something on a Las Vegas casino being demolished and that's what it reminded me of.

KT: Can you try to describe what these "pops" you heard sounded like?

PO: They sounded like light bulbs popping, but there were no light fixtures where the explosions were coming from. The sound was not all that loud.

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/02/911-rescuer-saw-explosions-inside-wtc.html


Plus, I would bet modern buildings, such as the WTC 6, are protected from power surges by an invention called the "fuse".
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kerry_s Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:30 PM
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18. WTC gold from Canadian bank
And two questions:

1. Was a railway track under a Building Six and WTC Plaza?

2. What about WTC gold? Has it vanished or has been found?

"Underneath the crushed concrete and twisted steel girders of the World Trade Center in New York lie about $200 million in gold and silver owned by a Canadian bank. Since Sept. 11, precious metals futures have soared amid worries about short-term supply since 29,942,691 ounces of silver and 379,036 ounces of gold are buried in Commodity Exchange (Comex) warehoused under the rubble."

""All of the silver, gold, platinum, and palladium stored in its vaults at 4 World Trade Center have been successfully relocated by an Exchange-approved carrier to a newly Exchange-licensed Brink's Inc depository in Brooklyn," they said.
Spurred by authorities who wanted to demolish the building, by the potential for crime, and by whatever has always driven men to hunt for gold, emergency crews dug through the rubble and got a first glimpse of the gleaming booty on Oct 30.
Guarded by a small army of heavily armed federal agents, city policemen and firefighters began the massive task of moving about 12 tonnes of gold and 30 million ounces of silver. The hoard was estimated to be worth at least $230 million.
There were about 3,800 100-Troy-ounce registered gold bars in the underground COMEX warehouse. While gold is very dense, the task of loading the indestructible yellow metal onto armoured Brinks trucks was not nearly as cumbersome as moving the silver.
Experts said it would take some 50 tractor trailers to transport 30,000 1,000-ounce silver bars. "
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 07:56 PM
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20. Yeah, they made sure to get the gold
but there was a "no rescue" order on people. The helicopters supposedly were told not to rescue (I think they were up to something else) You can see them sneaking out right after each tower starts to come down and the flashes in the Eyewitness video.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 10:39 PM
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21. 'Loading the indestructible yellow metal'?
Since when is gold indestructible but steel fails in less then one hour?


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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:03 PM
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24. Railway track
1. Was a railway track under a Building Six and WTC Plaza?




http://killtown.911review.org/wtc6.html
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kerry_s Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 04:32 PM
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19. "get in" or "get out"?
"I saw a police captain that I knew, and he came out to me. He looked absolutely
terrified, he was shaking, he was pale, he was sweating. I looked at him, I said what's
wrong? He said there's another plane headed our way, and they just blew up the
Pentagon."

"I ran into the lobby cause I had no idea what had happened and the cops that were in there were telling everybody get out, get out, get out. Where are you gonna go? Stuffs blowing up."

Everybody who saw rig siegel video know that explosions started before collapsing, so i have a question: when she started run? when the black cloud overhelmed her and others?
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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:10 PM
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25. She started running
after she got up from being knocked down from what she thought was WTC 5 exploding on her and saw a wave of people running towards her:

Cars Blowing Up

KT: What did you do when the South Tower started coming down?

PO: I didn't know what was happening, but there was a loud "roar" -- lots of crashing sounds. I was attempting to put my stretcher back into the vehicle. The ground was shaking and I saw a sea of people, mostly the various agencies on scene, Fire, Police, EMS, all running towards me. I had no idea what they were running from, but I decided I'd be ahead of them and just started running west towards the river.

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KT: Can you describe more about how the building blew up on you? Did you feel the shock wave from the explosion and/or debris falling down near you?

PO: Well, one second I was trying to put my stretcher into the ambulance, the next thing I know I am thrown to the ground as the ground was shaking.


http://killtown.blogspot.com/2006/02/911-rescuer-saw-explosions-inside-wtc.html
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 02:17 AM
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22. Don't want this to drop
kind of nails the lid on the coffin as far as car explosions and intentional wtc 6 explosion, IMO.
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killtown Donating Member (575 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-15-06 01:12 PM
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26. I'm still waiting to hear from the "Arabs did it" crowd
as to what made all the cars explode that were parked near the WTC 6!!!
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 01:08 AM
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27. I can't find it now, but someone did actually say
that Al Queda must have been there the day before to plant the bombs in the cars, or something like that, on this forum.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-16-06 11:46 AM
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28. kick
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 11:43 AM
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29. this is an important interview.nt kick
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