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Eikon Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:28 PM
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WTC 7 Theory
Edited on Sat Feb-11-06 09:28 PM by Eikon
I just came up with this and wanted to get some opinions. Has anyone ever heard of the idea that the plane that went down in Pennsylvania was meant for WTC building 7? My thinking is that the charges planted in WTC 7, as in the other two buildings, were set to go off at a certain time, and that for whatever reason the government was unable to cancel the planned demolition of the building even though the plane never made it to its target. The 911 commision's report that the building went down due to fires or whatever they came up with is complete bull, of course. Anyone think there could be truth to this theory?
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:30 PM
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1. Uhhhh.....no. nt
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Eikon Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:32 PM
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2. So you think the buildings collapsed in an hour due to fire?
or just disagree with my theory in general?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:54 PM
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4. Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to hit the Empire State
or Statue of Liberty, or the Chrysler Building, or the GW Bridge, or the Brooklyn Bridge instead of a relatively small and unremarkable building like WTC7?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:23 PM
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11. WTC housed the Federal investigations on Wall Street cases.
Just another fortunate occurance for the criminals....
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:16 PM
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16. Actually, it would make more "sense"...
to do all your "pre-demolition" work in the same place. I don't think any of the properties you mentioned are owned by the same "folks" - Larry Silverstein, who signed a 99-year lease on the World Trade Center in July 2001.

Just sayin'. I've often wondered whether there might have been a third plane crash planned on 9/11. That WTC7 pancake just seems SOOOO obvious...
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:55 PM
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28. But WTC7 was not unremarkable
It contained records of many governmetn investigations
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-22-06 05:11 PM
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27. Where did you get the hour from ..
WTC 7 collapsed nearly seven hours after the towers collapsed - since the most likely cause of the fires was debris from the towers those fires burned for seven hours - I think that is long enough to cause a collapse.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 05:54 PM
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25. too hard of a target
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 05:54 PM by sabbat hunter
WTC 7 while tall, given all the other buildings around it would be impossible to hit with an airplane.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-21-06 11:32 PM
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26. Maybe not...
after the towers were down. If it was a plan, that would be in the plan, right?
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 09:52 PM
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3. Never heard of it either.
:popcorn: :popcorn:
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Eikon Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:03 PM
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5. Well...
They did hit the west side of the Pentagon, the side that would cause the least amount of damage and just happened to be unoccupied at the time. Are we to believe that terrorists weren't smart enough to know of an effective spot to strike the pentagon at?

The 3rd plane being meant for WTC 7 is just something I came up with, I haven't personally heard of the idea anywhere else. The reason I believe this is because of the blatant destruction of the building. It collapsed in its own footprint in an amount of time that is not physically possible unless every floor is removed before the one above it is about to strike it, as if the entire building was in freefall.

The news media has also vehemently refused to replay any footage of the WTC 7 collapse because they simply have no way to explain it. Small fires could not have caused the collapse of such a massive steel building. Only thermite or some other explosive could account for the time in which it fell, or the melted steel that was found at the base of the buildings that was promptly carted off by FEMA.

I was hoping to get some opinions from an open minded crowd here at DU. At least we can all agree that the building went down due to planted explosives, right? This is simply common sense. Ask any professor...
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:10 PM
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6. what were the agencies in wtc7?
cia?

loose change mentioned something about some agency that was investigating ?? what?? i can't remember offhand--but i thought...hummmm....
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 03:38 PM
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19. The S.E.C. was investigating cheney and Halliburton for
deals overseas..it could have led to criminal indictments but fortunately for the crime family WT7 was destroyed under suspicious circumstances. The 12th floor where the SEC had their office was a raging inferno as was the 7th or 8th floor where the CIA had secret operations offices..Just several floors within WT7 were ablaze some suspect arson rather than the collapse of WT1. Also, when WT2 collapsed WT7 was still in good order and operational. Seems awfully suspicious..

Dem
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:13 PM
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7. I don't think so. WTC 7 was a relatively short building
surrounded by many taller buildings. It's not possible to hit it with a plane without hitting another building first.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 10:43 PM
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8. I was thinking the same thing
I've been down there, you couldn't hit WTC with a plane that big. Sorry, it's a dumb idea.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 04:23 PM
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23. You're not only wring, you are gratuitously rude n/t
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 04:23 PM by petgoat
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 04:18 PM
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22. Not possible? Looks to me like you could get a pretty good
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 04:22 PM by petgoat
shot at it from the north.



And of course once the towers were down, the path was relatively clear from the south.
Hey, if a lousy pilot like Hani could fly his 757 four feet off the ground and hit the
four-story high Pentagon, a better pilot should be able to hit 20 stories of WTC7.

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:10 PM
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9. That's an interesting idea, hmmm..maybe.
I think they wanted to get rid of a lot of "documentation" in that building.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-11-06 11:19 PM
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10. World Trade Center 7 - The true target of flight 93?
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 03:45 PM
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20. Make7 glad you checked in...that site you gave me
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 03:46 PM by DemInDistress
terrorize dk. has been pulled from the internet..do you think its suspicious or common since it has received much play these past 2 days what with molten metal dripping from the 80th floor of WT2 Can I get your opinion? I do value your input..

thanks Dem... you Make7>

edit for spelling
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 04:30 PM
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24. You could email them and ask.
Edited on Mon Feb-20-06 04:41 PM by Make7
The most likely explanation is that they have exceeded the bandwidth allowed by their webhost. Since the main address is still active (i.e. no 404 error), but goes to a page with a link for the site of a webhost in denmark - I think that is probably what is happening.

There is also the possibility that either the site or the webhost are performing upgrades. That might take them offline for a little while. If this is the case, they should be back up in a day or two. However, it usually does not take that long.

If they have exceeded their bandwidth, it should most likely be back up the first of next month. But after that, if it's still not up, it may have been shutdown for some reason. (To be speculated upon later.)

In the meantime, I'm going to PM you their contact info - in case you want to write and ask them what is going on. And it wouldn't hurt to profusely thank them for their entire site in order to entice them into replying.

- Make7
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 01:33 AM
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12. What plane........
went down in Pennsylvania?

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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:24 PM
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17. Yet Another Vaporizing Jet!
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-13-06 11:39 PM
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18. You have given me...
a chuckle. :)
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Harald Ragnarsson Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 02:13 AM
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13. Just a guess on my part
2 theories really.

I think the plane was supposed to hit the Capitol Building. Due to taking off late, the plane was shot down before it had a chance to do its' mission.

Or, all 4 planes took off at 25% capacity, approximately. 4 X .25=1 In other words, were all the passengers from the other planes loaded onto this one and then it was shot down to eliminate all witnesses? Maybe this is how they got DNA for the Pentagon passengers even though they claim the entire plane was vaporized.

Just brainstorming here.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 10:21 AM
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15. the passengers
Edited on Sun Feb-12-06 11:08 AM by WoodrowFan
so somehow they got all the passengers from all four planes onto one plane, even though the planes took off from Boston, Newark and Dulles? And many of the passengers were dropped off at the airport by their family and friends. So what, they did a mid-flight transfer in mid air?



bye bye
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-20-06 04:16 PM
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21. What passengers?
Names on a list can be meaningless.

>>>And many of the passengers were dropped off at the airport by their family and friends<<<

It falls on your shoulders to prove that statement.

Videos of the passengers and hijackers will do.

Good luck!



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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-12-06 06:13 AM
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14. i don't think the demo charges were on timers
to much uncertainty in exact time of arrival of the planes. it's possible that the Emergency Command Center in 7 was used as a control room for the demolition of the towers, if so then 7 contained damning evidence of the inside job.

wtc7 isn't very tall compared to the towers; given the surrounding high-rise buildings it would be much harder to hit then the towers. And wtc7 isn't exactly the kind of symbol of US dominance that the towers and the Pentagon were/are. So there'd be less reason to attack it.

I think we're supposed to think it's plausible wtc7 was so damaged by falling debris from the towers that it to collapsed. (Never mind that other wtc buildings were far more damaged then 7 - but did not collapse.)
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