The Bigger Picture: Why MIHOP is completely plausible

[file83]

My reasoning for believing "MIHOP" is completely plausible:

If you can believe that a small group of international, low-tech, terrorists can pull off 9/11, then it's completely plausible that a rogue element inside/part of/controlling sections of the USG could easily pull it off through compartmentalization, disassociation, and cover motives.

"Compartmentalization" means each aspect of the plot is compartmentalized so that no one directly involved in a particular aspect of the scenario knows that what they are doing is part of a larger orchestration of events. Various compartments are, the highjacking scenario, the dropping of the buildings, paving the way (military stand down), etc...

"Disassociation" means that people who were indirectly involved with aspects of a compartmentalized plan wouldn't associate their activities with what occured on 9/11 (the larger plan). For example, if you were an Air Force pilot that was ordered as part of a wargame scenario (Northern Vigilance, Vigilant Guardian) to fly away from the Eastern air corridor, you wouldn't associate that as part of the secret plan to allow the highjackers to reach their targets. That's just one example.

"Cover Motives" would include the people that were involved inside the government (CIA or Delta Force) in the rigging of the towers to come down. They would be motivated to keep it a secret because they would be told that rigging the buildings was to prevent the buildings from ever falling down laterally across many city blocks in the event of some terrorists attack that compromises the structural integrity of the buildings. The people selected for this compartmentalized operation are psychologically evaluated for patriotism, political loyalty and blind faith in authority (not to mention expertise). Even though after 9/11 they know what REALLY brought down the buildings, they are debriefed and reminded that their secrecy of the operation that "saved American lives" must never be made public, for the public would never understand it, and it would be made into a political weapon against their own leaders. They are told that the operation will remain sealed for at least 75 years (or whatever), and must remain secret to their graves. They comply, of course.

These are just a few of the apects of controlling an operation of this magnitude. It's completley feasible, and operations of this type have been proposed before, such as the operation Northwoods.

Ultimately, the people that do know the entire operation, the people controlling it believe in their hearts that 9/11 is part of a bigger global picture and sacrificing several thousand lives now is necessary for the National Security of our country because the public will then be motivated/feared into supporting a war that the people in charge plan on conducting.

I look forward to any comments and discussion from you guys concerning this "Bigger Picture". Please consider all aspects of 9/11 through these controlling features of "Compartmentalization" "Disassocation" & "Cover Motives" and bring up more examples of these concepts relating to your own research.

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[Bushwick Bill]

1. Read Synthetic Terror

I am only about a hundred pages into his book, but Webster Tarpley's patsies/moles/prof. killer framework is the best analysis on this front. Here is a summary.
http://www.waronfreedom.org/wgt-sf-speech.html
http://reprehensor.gnn.tv/blogs/10888/Webster_Griffin_Tarpley_on_Synthetic_Terror
http://www.gnn.tv/forum/thread.php?id=10549

[mirandapriestly]

2. Yes.

also the "exercises" that were carried out that morning, I mean c'mon! and the affiliation between CIA & Obl, & the hijackers lacking any Muslim qualities and appearing to be double agents living in housing owned by the FBI. The foreknowledge of the war in Afghanistan AND Iraq. The immediate introduction of the Patriot Act, which appears to have been in the works previously and never would have been able to been pulled off without 9-11. The creation of the Taliban by the US as a tool against the Russians. The lack of interest by Bushco in pursuing bin Laden apparently because of his close financial ties to the Saudis.
So many things which get little coverage by the MSM or people just don't pay attention.

[DemInDistress]

3. file....good damn post, I like it very plausible indeed..

Some here say,"how could hundreds of thousands of people keep it a secret" I heard that today..yet it would only take a handful (maybe 100) to fully implement this murderous attack. The fact that the administration did all they could to block,obstruct,stonewall and deny a truly independent investigation early on speaks volumes and after 4 1/2 yrs. many new developments have occurred, the one that pisses me off is in Dec.01'
osama trapped inside Tora Bora,bush allows him to escape to scare the sheep another day. Then he turned his eyes on Iraq and Saddam, totally uncalled for.
There are many other disturbing aspects of 911 and we need to explore all of them and expose this murderous crime family who willingly killed 3,000 innocent American citizens on 911 to advance an agenda, PNAC

I can see your a true 911 hunter and not a true 911 debunker (we have them here)

[RedSock]

4. daniel ellsburg on keeping secrets

Daniel Ellsberg, "Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers":

It is a commonplace that "you can't keep secrets in Washington" or "in
a democracy," that "no matter how sensitive the secret, you're likely
to read it the next day in the New York Times." These truisms are
flatly false. They are in fact cover stories, ways of flattering and
misleading journalists and their readers, part of the process of
keeping secrets well. Of course eventually many secrets do get out
that wouldn't in a fully totalitarian society. Bureaucratic
rivalries, especially over budget shares, lead to leaks. Moreover, to
a certain extent the ability to keep a secret for a given amount of
time diminishes with the number of people who know it. As secret
keepers like to say, "Three people can keep a secret if two of them
are dead." But the fact is that the overwhelming majority of secrets
do not leak to the American public. This is true even when the
information withheld is well known to an enemy and when it is clearly
essential to the functioning of the congressional war power and to any
democratic control of foreign policy. The reality unknown to the
public and to most members of Congress and the press is that secrets
that would be of the greatest import to many of them can be kept from
them reliably for decades by the executive branch, even though they
are known to thousands of insiders."

paperback, page 43

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secrets known by thousands kept hidden for decades!

[DemInDistress]

5. do you think "hundreds of thousands " knew about the Sept.11

attacks? How about the Bilderbergers? The bush crime family's inner circle? larry silverstein & mossad? or
did osama and 19 marauders do it?
to me 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB..It couldn't be successful without help and cooperation from inside the USA.
Daniel Ellsburg was an American hero..America needs a new Daniel Ellsburg quick..

Thanks for the history lesson ^5

[Pastiche423]

6. It wasn't 3,000 AMERICANS

People from 62 countries were murdered that day in September.

[DemInDistress]

7. jesus christ...wow...majority of the dead were Americans..MOST

FROM THE TRI-STATE AREA...WOW

ANOTHER 911 DEBUNKER

[Pastiche423]

8. I am not a debunker at all

I am somewhere between LIHOP and MIHOP. Actually closer to MIHOP.

It's just that I find it extremely inconsiderate and rude to say only Americans died that day.

Sixty-two countries lost people

IMHO, if you want to be believed, keep the facts straight.

Btw, I have been reading this form since the ewing2000 days.

[DemInDistress]

9. alright,,,you win, I am a loose cannon today what with

threads locked,thick headed baiters,and my worst enemy-- 911 fakers. So, I will apologize my friend to you.
I see clarity with yourpost,,between LIHOP and MIHOP a true 911 hunter. ^5
So,if you'll excuse me for tonight I hope to be on better footing tomorrow. BTW, where you from? Me, I live in
NYC and miss those Towers tremendously. 911 was indeed a very sad day as well as an "INSIDE JOB"
We need to expose the bush crime family for their murderous acts on Sept.11 2001.

I bow my head my friend..

DEM

[Pastiche423]

11. No problem

The 1st thought I had when I saw the towers collapse (I'm on the West Coast), was....... WTF have they done now? They being the administration.

For the next month, I spoke w/no one about my thoughts, afraid of what someone would say. That is, until I found the 1st incarnation of this form and ewing2000 (Nico).

Then when I heard cheney demand that Daschle back off an investigation, I knew. I made a bumpersticker for my backpack on my w/c long before Cynthia McKinney declared "BUSH KNEW" in May 2002.

I agree w/you, we need to expose the bush crime family for their murderous acts on Sept.11 2001.

[DemInDistress]

12. glad you mentioned that cheney telling daschle.."back off"

thats where I got off the bush train.Why should they have not gone full steam into a public airing of 911..As the weeks and months passed their actions or lack of actions spoke volumes to me. The nation was grieving from that "sneak attack" which had the desired effect,"even I supported bush after 911" but my suspicions were aroused soon after the senate/house joint intel investigation where 28 or so pages were redacted from the public record. Then cheney threatens daschle..wow
Thanks my friend from out west. I was fortunate to bump into you tonight for I will look forward to future posts and other materials from you..
Sorry again about my attitude your really a cool person ^5..

[Harald Ragnarsson]

10. Mine is Anthrax

If they would kill you with Anthrax and frame arabs for it, they would kill you with airplanes and frame arabs for that too, if they could get away with it.

MIHOP all the way.