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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:18 PM
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Garofolo: '9/11 was an inside job'
Garafolo: '9/11 was an inside job'

Today, 2/23/06 at 7:39 pm EST, XM SAT radio channel 167, Air America Radio, The Majority Report, co-host Janeane Garofalo said, "9/11 was an inside job! I have come to this conclusion about that."

I think all Air America phone-in callers should open by saying, "9/11 was an inside job. We can all agree on that.", then get on with their specific question or comment. We should re-condition the listening audience to accept the Truth about 9/11 as the gospel. Repetition, to inspire research.

http://www.total411.info/2006/02/garofolo-911-was-inside-job.html
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:19 PM
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1. Thanks for the time stamp.
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 08:22 PM by BuyingThyme
On edit: ...Where is this archived?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:21 PM
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2. She's probably being facetious because I think she's said that before
Maybe she's making fun of the fact that people may actually be waking up to that fact (at last). Will definitely tune in to see what else she says.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:22 PM
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3. She's been saying that since seeing the documentary "Loose Change"
I agree with her.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:27 PM
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4. it's so obvious
btw, if anyone needs convincing that 911 was staged, then it would be preferable to convince him/them that the bush story is the only true one......truth isn't a cheap bauble that you give to boors just cuz the cud chewing pigs need enlightenment! if they want enlightenment, tell them to light themselves on fire....
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FtWayneBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:32 PM
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5. an updated Loose Change II is now available.
I just got mine. After watching it, I am more convinced than ever, and less afraid to say it -

911 was an inside job.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:38 PM
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9. Wait, If I See Loose Change Second Edition Do I Need To See Loose Change 1
?

Is it a sequel or just an updated version? Please answer quickly, I wanna download this to show my wife ASAP!
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:05 PM
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20. watch the second edition
it is updated
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 09:11 PM
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21. Where can people get their hands on a copy?
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:34 PM
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25. Right here ... link:
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:33 PM
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6. Give me a break
I am so sick of this.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:34 PM
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7. Get Over It...
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:39 PM
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10. operation northwoods
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:45 PM
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14. Too bad....you're going to see a lot more of it as the American....
...people wake up to what really happened on 911.

Do yourself a favor...if you don't like what you're reading, don't respond.

See how simple that is?
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Psyop Samurai Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:50 PM
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15. very convincing...
...sounds like you've really suffered.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:50 PM
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16. Perhaps resistance is at the root of your illness.
You'd think I'd be sick of hearing responses that disrupt consideration of that day. I don't. I simply accept that there are many people who walk around espousing conspiracy theories about 19 hijackers, because they haven't yet considered the questionable evidence for that.

Try putting ALL theories aside and start here with the "Unanswered Questions" in my sig line's link.

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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:37 PM
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8. Whoa....
Thanks for this.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:41 PM
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11. Nah, Bushco aint that smart
but I do think they had ample warning and allowed it to happen.

The anthrax mailings were more their style: using something that was easily traced back to a CIA lab, something so dangerous it could only have been handled within that lab, and target only enemies of the family. Oh, and use envelopes that were porus enough to contaminate several post offices and cause them to be shut down.

No, we don't all agree that 9/11 was an inside job.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:42 PM
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12. Exactly
I've never understood why those that harp on a 9/11 conspiracy so much don't do more to expose the anthrax attacks. That's the obvious lie and conspiracy right there.
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:54 PM
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19. this is way over the puppets head
but that is exactly why we got the puppet.

peace
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:42 PM
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13. Ck out this website
www.reopen911.org. You will be a believer!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:53 PM
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17. us DU'ers been pushing for this since 9/12
and we got our DU admins to dedicate a forum to this critical issue and i will never forget the admins here allowing us to keep this discussion open.

thank you DU :toast:

peace
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 08:54 PM
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18. Total IHOP
Just watch some of the 9/11 docs at http://www.question911.com "Loose Change 2nd Edition" is the best. Spread the truth. The only way people can stop Bush is with the truth.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:00 PM
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22. I just tried to recommend this thread and got an error message
Edited on Mon Feb-27-06 10:01 PM by Melissa G
saying i could not recommend threads from this forum. Since 12 folks already have and it is on the greatest page... This seems very strange.. Can someone enlighten me?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-27-06 10:14 PM
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23. I got the same message just now. nt
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 08:23 AM
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29. The same thing happened to me yesterday
People post 9-11 stuff on another forum, it gets onto the greatest page, and then the mods move it to the 9-11 forum, where threads aren't allowed to receive votes.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:41 AM
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27. I don't know what happened on 9-11, but I do know that the 9-11 report
is not the truth. I fear that as hatred of Bushco grows, people will jump to conclusions and we'll have a witch hunt for anyone who might have known anything about 9-11. We will simply see a flip side of the evil.
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Babel_17 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:00 PM
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30. Not MIHOP, not LIHOP but ....
rather a depraved indifference towards being attacked by terrorists.

That might seem a subtle distinction to LIHOP but it's an important one.

It's a more understandable and plausible explanation for how 911 happened.

A "depraved indifference" goes to the mindset that was commonplace amongst the Bush administration.

They regarded the traditional responsibilities that they were expected by law and custom to fulfill with an arrogant disdain.

In their minds, an attack by terrorists on the USA was just a part a part of the political equation. Dealing with the possibility of it was something that would have to wait its turn and then be handled in a manner that was in line with the larger agenda.

The great unspoken assumption being that a terrorist attack wasn't the worst thing that could happen and if it did happen it would have an upside that could be used for political advantage and furthering of a greater agenda.

You won't ever sell MIHOP or LIHOP to the majority of americans imo. If you could sell it, it would only be in the context of having already destroyed the GOP and having the greater part of the administration under indictment on other charges.

Selling that the administration was operating under a mindset of "depraved indifference" towards the signs that showed a 911 was coming is a different matter however. Unlike MIHOP and LIHOP that theory can be sold piecemeal and requires no vast leap of faith on the part of the listener.

As a practical matter in regards getting accountability in a court for 911 after indicting members of the administration: Using the claim of there having been a "depraved indifference" could work nearly as well as MIHOP or LIHOP even if you assumed those theories could be sold.

In addition, claiming that "depraved indifference" was the general mindset doesn't preclude additionally claiming that certain individuals were of the MIHOP or LIHOP frame of mind.

"Depraved indifference" dovetails easily with the administration's apparent lack of compassion and concern for the casualties of war, the victims of disasters and those in our gulags.

The public already leans toward having that opinion of the administration. Convincing them to think just a bit more out of the box and that the administration didn't really care if a 911 situation ever happened is not as herculean a task as selling MIHOP or LIHOP.

Cliff Notes: People have a near instinctive reaction towards refusing to wrap their minds around MIHOP or LIHOP. It's too inhuman a concept. People can understand however how the powerful can be arrogant enough not to care. And for what it's worth, even if you firmly believe in MIHOP or LIHOP selling the notion of there having been a "depraved indifference" instead isn't a sellout of your integrity. Anyone engaging in MIHOP or LIHOP would indeed have to be cursed with such a mindset as a prerequisite.

This is similar to how prosecutors go after murderers, proving premeditation can be very hard but lesser charges of manslaughter don't require that to be proven.

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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:23 PM
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31. Interesting post -- but isn't that LIHOP?
What I don't understand about your post is that your theory of depraved indifference to the coming attacks sounds exactly like LIHOP. Am I misunderstanding your point of view or am I misunderstanding LIHOP?
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Babel_17 Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:21 PM
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32. I agree it's subtle
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 01:22 PM by Babel_17
Thank you for your interest.

I guess it's ok for me to expound on my suggestion some more. I'll start with an analogy.

Let's say you're a chiropractor. It snows and the sidewalks are freezing. You go outside your office and are about to begin putting salt and sand down. You see the manager of the aerobics studio next door looking at her sidewalk. She's from southern california and inexperienced with brutal winters. She asks, "think the sidewalks are going to be a hazard?" You just laugh and say, "Nothing your students shouldn't be able to handle."

You wait till she goes inside then you take care of your sidewalk and go back inside and wait for your business to soon pick up. ;)

That's pretty much MIHOP.

Alternatively, you could have the same situation but she doesn't ask you anything, she just looks concerned at her sidewalk and goes back inside to teach her class. You chuckle and figure business might be picking up. You didn't open your mouth to help your inexperienced neighbor.

That's LIHOP.

The third scenario has you going out to take care of your sidewalks before it freezes. The aerobics place next door isn't open yet but you know the sidewalk will be a sheet of ice IF people do show up unless the manager gets their first and does something.

You have plenty of extra sand and salt, you have the phone number of the manager, you choose to do nothing. Your priorities don't include nursemaiding your neighbors or wasting sand and salt over a hypothetical.

That's a depraved indifference.

Btw, no offense to chiropractors, they're great peeps.

LIHOP presumes one has both a responsibility and the means to take preventive action and that there are no seriously mitigating circumstances to not taking action. LIHOP also generally presumes a near certain knowledge an event will take place. It also presumes a benefit will be accrued by letting it happen.

A depraved indifference is when one can't be bothered to show initiative and do the right thing even when a lot might be riding on doing the right thing. A near certain knowledge of an event taking place isn't a requirement.

A person with depraved indifference may gain from something bad happening but they often aren't legally required to prevent it.

LIHOP implies a conspiracy of silence, a depraved indifference can be just an example of a common mindset that requires no conspiracy to have the same effect as one.










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