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theSaiGirl Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 12:56 PM
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"Left" gatekeeping against the truth of 9/11
This is how the fake controlled "left" opposition is used to gatekeep against the truth.
These "left" gatekeepers are the worst traitors of all, aren't they ?

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/298457.shtml
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Harald Ragnarsson Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 01:29 PM
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1. LOL as if we didn't know
When you get die hard lefties whose main passions seem to be gun control and calling for supporting Bush's Reichstag to take over the world, it really has to make ya wonder. Makes me wonder, anyway.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 02:54 PM
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2. LOL, "Won't get fooled again"
Edited on Tue Feb-28-06 02:55 PM by Jose Diablo
"There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right"


Ya need a scorecard to keep track of the issues of the Left and the Right.
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Christophera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-28-06 06:27 PM
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3. What About 9-11 Gatekeeping Against 9-11 Truth?
Certainly by now most of the 9-11 world knows of my assertions of a concrete core and the uses of photos, and if they don't it is because the 9-11 truth seekers are sabotaged by agents creating confusion, arresting the natural processses of agreement. If those in the 9-11 truth world do know, and they don't agree, why haven't any tried to debunk the proposition of the concrete core properly with real evidence on a website?

And, if they do agree, why aren't they working to promote it? In that aspect we see the sabotage working.

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bronco2121 Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:07 AM
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5. i would never...
i would never try to arrest the natural processses of agreement.... unless... never mind!

b.
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Christophera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 01:55 PM
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6. It Seems Odd That The Most Common Building Material In The World
would be rejected as the core for the towers when an image like this shows zero structural steel.



I mean the idea with 9-11 inquiry is to question the official story. Why is the FEMA claim (unsupported) that the towers had steel core columns acceptable over evidence that shows the core was not steel?

On the face of it, any body running a bb would immediately support the information as valid, or certainly beyond question WITHOUT solid, raw evidence backing an assertio that the official story is a fact.

For example DU supports the official core and I tried to get notice of it here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x71536
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MrSammo1 Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:05 AM
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9. by the way.........
Have you ever tried to contact William Rodriguez?

He worked there.


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bronco2121 Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 11:03 AM
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4. secret agents, man
it's getting pretty funny. i linked to oilempire on my site, and i got a lot of email claiming that i'm part of some type of larger conspiracy against the 9/11 truth movement: a counter-intelligence agent working for the right. who me? maybe. maybe oilempire is part of the conspiracy and all the efforts involving the distribution of the deception dollar (and related websites) are all part of the a right wing conspiracy designed to muddle what REALLY happened on 9/11.

but wait - oilempire is speaking ABOUT the left gatekeepers... hmmm. isn't that just what you'd expect from a counter-intelligence agent/agency?

i'm just kidding about oilempire. they are in consensus with 911truth.org and questionquestion.net and many other credible websites. but then again, maybe all those websites are actually controlled from under one roof in a secret location in a building resembling the pentagon... maybe even a replica of the pentagon? hmmm...

bronco
flight77.info
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Christophera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 03:56 PM
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7. Different Kinds Of Gatekeepers-Exposing Secrets vs. Methods Of Secrecy
I spoke with Mike Rupert on the phone a few years ago and explained that as long as the methods of secrecy (on the level of 9-11 conspiracy) were unexposed, that the secrets of 9-11 would remain so and that new secrets would replace them.

He wasn't interested. To me this says that many gate keepers are conditional. Let me note that I've approached nearly every powerful entity (.orgs for; peace, freedom, justice, liberty and environment) working to expose secrets with the proposition I made to Rupert, and none were interested.

Given the implications of that, we should not be surprised if all of our efforts amount to almost nothing.

Secrets are only allowed to be exposed after they have served their purpose. This helps the image of the powerful gatekeepers who leak the secret because it is not truly known when it is leaked that the information is tool late. The gatekeeper benefits by gaining/bolstering a non conformist, rebellious image which increases the counter culture trust in them and the implied meaning of the secrets they expose.

Meaning that the 9-11 movement will learn about the concrete core when it is too late to use the information. We could use it now but gatekeepers of 9-11 won't use it and disinfo agents exploit well meaning political commitments to create false debunking of the information. The public may see this and recognize it as such but, mostly, are too afraid to jump in and point out what they see.
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bronco2121 Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-04-06 05:39 PM
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8. like mike drudge
Edited on Sat Mar-04-06 05:42 PM by bronco2121
>>The gatekeeper benefits by gaining/bolstering a non conformist, rebellious image

like the drudgereport and monica. look how far that has taken him.... he can now wag the networks and brags when he does it.

>>Secrets are only allowed to be exposed after they have served their purpose.

for all my work on the flight 77 thing - this will be the eventual case. however those images get released, it's going to be too late to make an impact. already things are getting weird. watch judicial-watch. things are not as they appear there. it's my guess that they'll be given the video to distribute.

oooooh - i've said it here! if it does down that way, it will validate your points.

cheers!
bronco
flight77.info
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Christophera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:16 PM
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10. Timing Of Exposure Related To Development Of Events
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 04:19 PM by Christophera
Wow, ..... you totally get it. Right On!


The tapes that were FOIA'ed would blow the whole 9-11 cover, or at least start to tear it off. I don't see any loosening whatsoever on 9-11 from official positions. I do see much more public concern though on the web. More interest and more readinees to believe the worst.

You say;

"things are not as they appear there." What do you mean?

I read the article and the terrorist case relativity is non existant, DOD juristiction the same, so there is no real reason for the court to not order the immediate release.

We need the same action on Guiliani for the WTC records, something much less contentious from a pedestrian view.

http://www.nyclu.org/g_archive020602.html

I tried to PM you but the site said "you were not recieving messages yet". email me. argus1@earthlink.net
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 06:47 PM
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11. oh yeah, i've been accused of that....

I've been accused of supporting the 'right wing bush coup' or some such thing.

It's not a 'coup', that flatters the fascists who did it.

They just used 9/11 to hold the country's communications infrastructure hostage.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 02:10 AM
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12. When your own government lies to you
it's hard to know who to believe
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Christophera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:08 AM
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13. Do You Know How Important That Point Is? It's Inverse Is What?
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 03:13 AM by Christophera
Knowing how to know, how to believe.

What do we share that makes us know we can trust the information we are getting? Who do we share it with and how can we share it so they trust it like we do?

Why do we share it?



I really cognit we are not getting anywhere unless we undertake this process. Unfortunately, religion, academia and media have worked to disinform and misinform us and the very notion of knowing how to know, how to believe; probably sounds alien to most. We must share our most fundamental, best instincts, recognize them and agree to follow them. One who can read them then write them will be recognized by others, fear will disapate and functional communication will increase.
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Christophera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:42 PM
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14. Can This Explain The Resemblence To The Reichstag?
And what corrupted leftie has been keeping it secret?

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:54 PM
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15. creepy picture!
I need that little smiley face thing that shakes in fear. Oh man, I'm going to have nightmares, except I'm already been having them, I feel like I've been living in a nightmare since BushCo ascended the throne.
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