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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:20 PM
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Explosive: Is Zaquawi - all PsyOps-Deception? - CANNONFIRE blog
The CANNONFIRE blog (Joseph Cannon) always offers value added analysis. In this post, Cannon outlines an explosive interpretation pulled from the actual facts of the Zaquari case and the recently re-revealed US psyops disinformation and DECEPTION campaign of fake news. He raises great questions and bases it all on real facts and analysis from people like Robert Fisk.

Rate this up and get the link around. This is the “doomsday” machine if it pans out, and it looks very good.


CANNONFIRE Joseph Cannon

Zarqawi-gate: More important than you think...Is the threat posed by Jordanian-born terror
mastermind Abu Musab al-Zarqawi real? Is Zarqawi himself a fiction, as some maintain?


http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2006/04/zarqawi-gate-more-important-than-you.html



The Washington Post's recent revelation that a Pentagon psyop unit hyped up the Zarqawi threat may turn into the next big scandal, especially since the leaked document specifices that the propaganda campaign targeted the "U.S. Home Audience."

<snip>

“ In 2004, we intercepted a letter from Zarqawi to Osama bin Laden. In it, Zarqawi expressed his concern about "the gap that will emerge between us and the people of the land." He declared "democracy is coming." He went on to say, this will mean "suffocation" for the terrorists. Zarqawi laid out his strategy to stop democracy from taking root in Iraq.” George W. Bush

Bush said these words on the same day the Post story identified this letter as the product of an American psyops team!

At this point, we must ask how many -- if any -- of the Zarqawi stories we've heard have any truth to them.

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Get the full story at the CANNONFIRE blog. WELL RESEARCHED, WELL REASONED...HUGE!!!

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:26 PM
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1. carnival environment for sure
they built such a gigantic web of deceit that even THEY cannot discern.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:28 PM
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2. "Put on Psy War Ops, make it loud"
Romeo Foxtrot, Shall we dance?"

:eyes:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:28 PM
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3. K&R - It certainly smells like one big psyop...
Think Jessica Lynch & think Saddam's statue razing...:grr:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:28 PM
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4. Many of us hinted at this ages ago
Now this would be funny.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:33 PM
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5. Thanks as always autorank!
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 02:33 PM by Independent_Liberal
Dubya's getting written up again. Another for the impeachment tally.

:)
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ccarter84 Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:57 PM
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6. fancy that...I can't recommend hmmmmm n/t
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 05:00 PM
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7. Why was this moved from GD?
I don't think this really is a 9-11 issue..

It is more about how this administration has been and continues to deceive us on a daily basis...
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 05:19 PM
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8. Really good question...
:shrug:
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Chomp Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 05:57 PM
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9. This is just beyond parody.
Please tell me someone sees the unpleasant ironies at work here?

This post is in the September 11th Forum, a forum primarily about 9/11, but also a place where (to quote the DU rules) "highly speculative conspiracy theories" can be debated.

So my question is this: what is a perfectly reasonable and plausble story about US psyops in Iraq doing in a forum next to threads debating whether 9/11 was a miltiary coup?

Do people see the absurdities and horrible ironies of this kind of muddled juxtaposition? The hopeless mixing-up of the issues of Iraq and 9/11? (Or are they the same subject now? Do people even care anymore?). The same level of critical assessment being brought to bear on the Zarqawhi story as there is on the question of whether the WTC controlled demolitions were nuclear or not.

The appearance of a perfectly plausible story in a forum full of implausible ones. What is the consequence of that? It seems to me that the plausible story lends credibility to the implausible ones, reinforcing the idea of a discernable pattern of behaviour on behalf of the administration. And thus making anything possible.

But what's the biggest irony of all? It is that these are EXACTLY the kind of bullshit associations that the Administration wanted all along. Lump all the ragheads in together. Talk Newspeak. 911Iraq. Lie all the time. Spread confusion. Fight them over there so we don't fight them over here. Call them all terrorists. You're either with us or against us. Lies are truth. War is Peace.

Mission Accomplished.




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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:08 PM
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10. Actually it makes a lot of sense, Chop.
A psy-ops Zarqawi is a perfectly plausible scenrio, and if you would bother to familiarize
yourself with the facts you would find that 9/11 issues such as the explosive hypothesis
are perfectly plausible as well.
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Chomp Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:37 PM
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11. The
fact we agree that the Zarqawhi story is plausible is enough for us to be on the same side on this issue Petgoat: given that the Zarqawhi story is plausible and since it is neither about 9/11 nor is it a "highly speculative conspiracy theory", it belongs in GD.

It's better we agree about half the issue than none of the issue.


(Maybe the source linked to in the OP is banned from GD?)
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:42 PM
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12. If the source were banned I think they'd lock the thread. nt
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Kai Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 05:01 PM
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15. Do people see the absurdities and horrible ironies of this kind of muddled
Edited on Sat Apr-15-06 05:29 PM by Kai
juxtaposition?

I agree, it certainly seems like a muddled juxtapostion.

Sorry to be so rude to you yesterday, Chomp. But what can you expect from someone who was raised by monkeys?

In any event, I think it might be useful for you to read the Wikipedia entry on DU, section 6, Criticism, to get some perspective. I should emphasize that the neutrality of the entry is disputed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Underground#Criticism




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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 12:05 PM
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13. Rate this up???
Error: You can't recommend threads from this forum

:shrug:
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-15-06 02:41 PM
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14. of course he's the OIF Boogeyman
so was that fabricated intercepted memo to UBL. It's much easier to feed BS of a single evil doer than a broad resistance to our occupation.
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