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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 08:46 PM
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Look what the WTC is up to!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12140834/

New Navy ship being built with WTC steel

Updated: 11:09 p.m. ET April 3, 2006
NEW YORK - With a year to go before it even touches the water, the Navy’s amphibious assault ship USS New York has already made history — twice. It was built with 24 tons of scrap steel from the World Trade Center, and it survived Hurricane Katrina.

snip~

USS New York is the fifth in a new class of warship — designed for missions that include special operations against terrorists. It will carry a crew of 360 sailors and 700 combat-ready Marines to be delivered ashore by helicopters and assault craft.

I don't know what those special operations might be! I hope they don't include Iran.
And they speculate it may even catch Bin Laden! Don't worry other ships are planned to honor the other tragedies of 9/11-USS Somerset-for flight 93-but they won't use crime scene evidence (I would guess) for their creation.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 08:50 PM
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1. Well, they had to find some way to use the scrap
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 08:51 PM by Ecumenist
in a fashion where noone would actually test it for traces of thermite... I'll give them a banana for creativity..
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:03 PM
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:07 PM
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3. you're missing something
:sarcasm:
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MervinFerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:30 PM
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8. No, I'm making fun of you. N/T
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:40 PM
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MervinFerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 10:04 PM
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18. Make fun, but it's not working because those have nothing to do with....
Hundreds of agents of Secret Government Agencies doing physically impossible things--like planting hundreds of explosive devices without anyone noticing.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 12:05 AM
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26. Are you in the fifth grade?
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 12:07 AM by iconoclastNYC
You do know that Bush's brother was head of WTC Security right?

You do know that the Port Authority which owns the building was controlled by a Republican governor in a city run by a Republican mayor?

Listen you can do shit like this and not get noticed. You have little power down conditions.

You lock doors.

You post sentries and cameras.

This is a military operation we're talking about. They have millions of dollars to fix screw ups. If need be the official plan said to kill 3000-10000 so whats 1-10 more?

Think about it. There is evil in this country. There is evil in our government. There is most definately evil in our Intelligence and National Security "communities".
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 12:34 AM
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27. Thank you, IconoclastNYC
There are so many people like us, that can see what's happening and have seen it but until recently have felt as if they were crazy. People have gotten fed up and now understand that it's fast approaching a time when they will have nothing to lose EXCEPT their lives and the lives and futures of their children and everything they have ever known. Thanks Iconoclast....
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:38 AM
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29. Have you ever been in a high rise office building after midnight?
It's wall to wall elves, unicorns, and yetis.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:09 PM
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5. have a nice visit.
:popcorn:
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MervinFerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:32 PM
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9. I think.....
accusing people of being trolls and etc is a violation of DU rules.

As is posting 9/11 Conspiracy Horseshit in GD.

Get thee to the basement!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:34 PM
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12. Who Accused you of "Being a Troll"? (nt)
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MervinFerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:38 PM
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14. I believe it was "Mopinko"....
Not in so many words, of course. But the meaning is clear.

The last resort of the conspiracy hobbyist---accuse the questioner of being a gov't agent.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:41 PM
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17. yes... "conspiracy"
you have abused the word enough.
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MervinFerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 10:10 PM
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19. There is a conspiracy to ridicule me!!!!! HELP!!!!!
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 10:11 PM by MervinFerd
Actually...

Maybe there -was- no conspiracy!!!!

Those planes were actually piloted by robots constructed and designed personally by George Bush.

He's actually a highly brilliant Space Alien and a secret graduate of MIT.

We all know Ay-rabs would be too dumb to crash a plane.

Robots planted the controlled demoltion explosives, too.

They are invisible.

You can't prove I am wrong!!!!

Just try.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 10:21 PM
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jschurchin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:02 AM
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28. I don't have to prove...........
you are wrong. All i have to do is prove that you are a moron............oh wait, you beat me to it!!!!
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:40 AM
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30. You have no evidence for your assertions.
We have evidence for ours. The facts are on our side, and if you
would bother to familiarize yourself with them, you would see that.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:07 PM
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4. Yep, and IIRC, they were sending lots of metal as scrap to dealers
within a month of 9/11.
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 11:16 PM
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21. Yep... I remember thinking that it was past odd for them to
do that. I have to admit that I felt from the minute I began to watch what was happening on 911, I felt the at at the very least, bush and his bunch allowed it happen. I lost 4 friends that day and for a little bit, thought I'd lost my cousin and uncle,( they both worked for Port Authority). We feared the worst had happened for the better part of 16 hours.
I have always believed that they didn't give over the care to this crime scene, ( and that's what it was) that the police would have given to a candy store robbery by a bunch of arthritic babushkas. I really have always believed that they were hiding something from the beginning.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:14 PM
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6. So, which terrorists are they going to be sent against?.....
...the ones that we claim destroyed the WTC, or the ones that hang out in the Pentagon?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:28 PM
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7. We sold scrap iron and steel to Japan just before WWII...
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 09:30 PM by rasputin1952
some it was used in their bombs and torpedoes that fell on our soldiers, sailors an Marines during that conflict. To be honest, I'd rather see this steel used at home as opposed to being sold to another country.

I am not advocating the use of munitions, but I can see the point of using some of that steel for this. Here in Nebraska, Columbus to be precise, (about 35 miles South of where I am located), some of the WTC steel has been erected, tastefully I might add, to a small "sculpture" in a small military park that has the names of WWII, Korean and VN vets engraved in bricks. I added my father's, stepfather's and my son added my name to the wall.

While I do not agree w/this war, and am adamantly opposed to it; I have to admit that I tear up when I think of what those at the WTC went through, and would like to see bin-Laden brought to justice and condemned throughout the world.
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MervinFerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:34 PM
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11. It's a schmaltzy, but understandable gesture, except for....
the 9/11 conspiracy hobbyists, who see the entire government as an evil plot.

Too bad there can't be a rational discussion of this topic.

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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:21 PM
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23. Rational discussion?
Oh was that your intent with ridicule and mocking? There is indeed a valid point to the opening post-the reason I found this current article, I was thinking about how quickly they got rid of the steel-the debris-which WAS a crime scene.

Fire engineering magazine, a bunch of total wackos!

http://fe.pennnet.com/Articles/Article_Display.cfm?Section=OnlineArticles&SubSection=Display&PUBLICATION_ID=25&ARTICLE_ID=131225

By Bill Manning

Did they throw away the locked doors from the Triangle Shirtwaist Fire? Did they throw away the gas can used at the Happyland Social Club Fire? Did they cast aside the pressure-regulating valves at the Meridian Plaza Fire? Of course not. But essentially, that's what they're doing at the World Trade Center.

For more than three months, structural steel from the World Trade Center has been and continues to be cut up and sold for scrap. Crucial evidence that could answer many questions about high-rise building design practices and performance under fire conditions is on the slow boat to China, perhaps never to be seen again in America until you buy your next car.

Such destruction of evidence shows the astounding ignorance of government officials to the value of a thorough, scientific investigation of the largest fire-induced collapse in world history. I have combed through our national standard for fire investigation, NFPA 921, but nowhere in it does one find an exemption allowing the destruction of evidence for buildings over 10 stories tall.
~
Of course,their hasty destruction of crime scene evidence doesn't prove anything. Bombs? I've never really thought so. But if there was nothing to hide, why oh why did the evidence get removed so quickly? Oh yes, I know it wasn't that important to history. Well, it's gone forever now. It raises doubt. But to have doubt is to be mocked-to not trust implicitly and completely whatever story your government tells you means that you believe in conspiracy theories. No, it means that getting rid of crime scene evidence EVEN when (if you read the article) victims relatives and firemen were begging them not seems er yeah, suspicious. Of what? We'll never know.

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:44 PM
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24. Gee, I wonder why bin Laden hasn't been "brought to justice"?
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 08:51 PM by mirandapriestly
I guess they are too busy with the "kingpins" like Moussaoui.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 01:49 AM
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31. Tear up not for what the WTC dead went through.
Tear up for what their widows went through.

9/11 Widows rate the Commission's responses to the 9/11 families' questions
that the Commission promised would be a "road map" for their investigation.

(Most questions not even addressed, let alone answered.)

http://www.justicefor911.org/Appendix4_FSCQuestionRatings_111904.php

Statement of widow Lorie van Auken at the Truth Emergency in DC:

http://captaintrips.gnn.tv/blogs/8025/Laurie_Van_Auken_9_11_Widow_July_22nd_2005

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:38 PM
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15. So, metal from the debris of 9/11 is used to make.....A WEAPON?!?!??!
Edited on Tue Apr-25-06 09:38 PM by Roland99
Jesus H. Fucking Christ!!!!

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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 11:25 PM
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22. Actually
It's being used for the same purpose it was originally created for.
assembly of an object that was built to be destroyed.
All warships will soon be obsolete against all but the lowliest defanged regions...but it's nice to keep up the ruse, and make lots of people rich in the process.

It was so nice of that jetfuel/kerosene to make such clean cuts?


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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 12:02 AM
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25. Who says it's even WTC steel?
Edited on Thu Apr-27-06 12:03 AM by iconoclastNYC
We have to take the most corrupt government in American histories word for it.
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