BBC: Hacker fears 'UFO cover-up'

[IndianaGreen]

In 2002, Gary McKinnon was arrested by the UK's national high-tech crime unit, after being accused of hacking into Nasa and the US military computer networks.

Hacker fears 'UFO cover-up'

Last Updated: Friday, 5 May 2006, 16:40 GMT 17:40 UK

SK: What did you find inside Nasa?

GM: One of these people was a Nasa photographic expert, and she said that in building eight of Johnson Space Centre they regularly airbrushed out images of UFOs from the high-resolution satellite imaging. What she said was there was there: there were folders called "filtered" and "unfiltered", "processed" and "raw", something like that.

I got one picture out of the folder, and bearing in mind this is a 56k dial-up, so a very slow internet connection, in dial-up days, using the remote control programme I turned the colour down to 4bit colour and the screen resolution really, really low, and even then the picture was still juddering as it came onto the screen.

But what came on to the screen was amazing. It was a culmination of all my efforts. It was a picture of something that definitely wasn't man-made.

It was above the Earth's hemisphere. It kind of looked like a satellite. It was cigar-shaped and had geodesic domes above, below, to the left, the right and both ends of it, and although it was a low-resolution picture it was very close up.

This thing was hanging in space, the earth's hemisphere visible below it, and no rivets, no seams, none of the stuff associated with normal man-made manufacturing.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/click_online/4977134.stm

[kittenpants]

1. I don't suppose he saved that picture? n/t

[realisticphish]

2. wouldn't you know it?

he left it in his other pants, that got sent to the cleaners :shrug:

[lady lib]

4. Here's his response to that question:

SK: Do you have a copy of this? It came down to your machine.

GM: No, the graphical remote viewer works frame by frame. It's a Java application, so there's nothing to save on your hard drive, or at least if it is, only one frame at a time.

SK: So did you get the one frame?

GM: No.

SK: What happened?

GM: Once I was cut off, my picture just disappeared.

SK: You were actually cut off the time you were downloading the picture?

GM: Yes, I saw the guy's hand move across.

[LARED]

6. Yes, I saw the guy's hand move across.

:rofl::rofl:

[Joanne98]

3. It makes you wonder, doesn't it.

[LARED]

5. Yes, I'm sure NASA has found a way

to control the minds of hundreds of thousands of people using telescopes everyday. Not to mention all the universities that do research outside of the control of NASA.

[undergroundpanther]

7. We will never know

Until we STOP trusting assholes,stop letting military bullies ,corporate thugs and slimy self serving rich boy politicians from keeping secrets,until we cut and audit the black budget and stop letting these unaccountable to anyone but themselves secret orgs like the cia NASA etc, tell us what we have the right to know about OUR world we will NEVER know.Fuck their shame at their own incompetence let them deal with the wrath they deserve,fuck their shame at their criminal enterprises and wealth hoarding and mind games that lead to war,these moral degenerates in high places need to be made accountable..
The secret games have got to stop somewhere and the reliance on secrecy by the powerful bullshit'alphas'needs to stop NOW and the government must be made accountable to everyone. These thugs that project the image of"upstanding public servant" will not tell the truth unless they are basically hacked into and information taken like this hacker did..or they are forced to give it up or suffer personally for their indiscretions.Because these organizations are not beholden to the people like you and I they protect the hegemony power and wealth of predatory parasites on'top'.The top needs to lopped off and it's contents exposed to all. That is the only way we will know anything.

All sorts of evil flourishes when secrets abound and doors are closed and nobody knows.Every abuser knows this is true.

NO MORE SECRETS.

[Dogmudgeon]

8. The simple(ton) reason for NASA cover-ups of UFOs

They don't know what's going on any better than anyone else does. They want to be able to say, with scientific certainty and finality, what UFOs are, and that's that. But they can't, and it puts them in a tight spot. I do not envy them. A couple of my relatives have worked at NASA, and they have episodically been hammered by people demanding answers and accusing them of withholding evidence of aliens -- and a few demanding that NASA issue stronger denials. (One worked in admin, the poor schlub!)

I personally don't believe that UFOs are aliens or anything like that, but even strange natural phenomena that have no well-accepted, "official" explanation shake up the powers-that-be. They want to have all the answers. When they don't, the temptation is great for them to make stuff up, every bit as much as the alien-cultists.

There's also the possibility that UFO phenomena are part of a disinfo program that got out of hand, and the various spy organizations (and other manipulators) using belief in aliens have "sewn the wind and reaped the whirlwind". Evidence does exist supporting this contention, although conspiracy theories are another minefield; but at least proposing human mischief as the "cause" of UFOs brings them back down to Earth. Long-time UFO researcher Jacques Vallee came to a similar conclusion and dropped out of the field entirely -- he could no longer deal with the crazies on both sides of the issue, as well as the ham-handed, junior spy activities of some of the heavy-duty UFO players, and thinks of the area as socially poisonous.

This is a field where the kind of skepticism required is not just scientific, but political, as well. I don't believe that it's the aliens who are trying to colonize our planet, but rather, it's the damned power-mad who are trying to colonize our minds -- and botching up the job, as usual.

Hyperbole? Sure. But do you think that a government that would spend billions of dollars over 35 years to convince us that nuclear war with the USSR was imminent (and trillions to actually prepare for it) would hesitate to play the "Alien Card"?

--p!

[IndianaGreen]

9. FWIW, here is the link to the video of the BBC interview

[DemInDistress]

10. your video link does not respond..I'd like to see it.

thanks..

[IndianaGreen]

11. Go to the BBC link in the OP and try the link for the video there.

The interview runs for about 20 minutes.

[DemInDistress]

12. thanks IG.. link worked fine and I enjoyed that interview..

but was there a real "ufo" of the hacker's screen? The day will come when this "ufo" baby will be put to rest.
Still when governments hide "interesting facts and films" one can only wonder what's real.

thanks again.

[Sinti]

13. Put down the windowpane and step away from the screen

Most UFOs are actually test planes from our military. The 'Stealth' bomber was thought to be a UFO for a long time, when you see some of the old UFO pics it's just the 'stealth.'

[simonm]

14. Electrogravitics and Fusion Power

It is physically possible to mimick the "antigravity" feature in flying saucers. The engineering concepts are simple but requires a lightweight power source capable of producing millions of volts. The right combination of alloys is also an important factor.

Unfortunately, this kind of "fusion power" technology is unavailable to the public if it does exist.

Lifter Project
http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/main.htm

UFO Government whistleblowers
http://www.disclosureproject.org/

UFO Backengineering
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ufophysics/

[Ferry Fey]

15. Moderators, please move this off-topic thread

Moderators, please move this off-topic thread.

This is not the Mars or UFO forum.

[pauldp]

16. Hey Skinner, Mods...please

can we get a paranormal or metaphysical forum or SOMETHING
for chrissakes. This really makes DU look bad.

[mirandapriestly]

17. I second that, this makes me mad..nt

[simonm]

18. Third - mods please move thread

This OP does not belong in the 9/11 forum. I'd love to discuss ufos but it is not relevant to 9/11.

[New Earth]

19. yes please

UFO's have nothing to do with 9/11, unless of course aliens were behind the attacks.