My kingdom for a REAL Pentagon video tape

[ClusterFreak]

What's been released today, and previously, is a joke. It is not, by any definition, a "video tape". It is a connected series of still shots. We have a multitude of professional and amateur videos of the planes hitting the towers in New York, but not a single video - real, "frames per second" video - of the Pentagon crash. No one will EVER convince me that none exists, or that none was shot. Video WAS shot, but we are not supposed to see it. Washington is a large metropolis, and for you and I to believe that there is no video of the crash, other than these ridiculous still frames from a Pentagon security camera, is to bury our heads in the sand.

Show us the goddamn video.

[Bushknew]

1. LOL +1 nt

[Avalux]

2. Other videos DO exist.

Transguide, the Sheraton across the street, and a gas station across the street. All were confiscated by the FBI within an hour after "the plane hit".

Why? And why was it so important for the FBI to get those tapes so quickly - wasn't there more important things to do considering all hell was breaking loose?

[ClusterFreak]

4. Oh yeah, I know about those....

...and we'll never see them.

[sabbat hunter]

7. its called gathering evidence

it is the job of the FBI to do so.

lets face it, even if the tapes were released today and clearly showed a plane, CTers would call them a hoax.

[Avalux]

8. Perhaps.

But why not release the evidence, especially if there's a better video of a plane? There is no ongoing investigation, the report is out, there's no reason to not release other videos.

[ClusterFreak]

9. Well I know I'm not a **CT'er**...

...and if the tapes were released today, and they showed a plane, I'd say they showed a plane.

So show the tapes.

[frylock]

10. yeah -- the tapes were released today..

let's face it; they clearly showed jack crap.

[JackRiddler]

12. Let's face it...

No matter what you will seek to rationalize this farcical and arrogant refusal to release the information, although it has no security impact whatsoever, and although it is patently our right as citizens to see it - and you will use the language of contempt and dehumanization to characterize everyone who makes the point and demands their rights as citizens in this matter. Why?

And I speak as one who expects to see a Boeing.

Today's propaganda exercise of broadcasters doing a bad job of acting as though they see anything identifiable on the tape is so obviously succeeding as a means of stoking this idiotic debate to continue the awesome, wasteful distraction, to reduce a mountain of evidence back down to a hole in the Pentagon.

Release all the records. It's your right.

[AndyA]

3. I would imagine there must be even more than the ones we know of.

What about the Smith family from Ohio, on vacation touring the nation's capitol, standing proudly next to their Chrysler Minivan, posed with the Pentagon in the background while Granny tapes them with the cam?

There must be some videos out there that even the FBI doesn't know about...

D.C. is too busy, with too many people, for so little documentation.

[ClusterFreak]

5. I assume the "Smith" family represents any family, and is not a specific..

...family? Either way, you're right....someone took video, videos plural. Where is it, where are they?

[AndyA]

6. Yes, the "Smith Family" could be any family...

Note to Agent Mike at NSA: No, I am not a member of the "Smith Family," and I do not have a video showing the plane hitting the Pentagon, nor do I know for certain if one exists.

[Bolo Boffin]

11. New York is much larger than Washington

The first attack happened in one of the most populated areas on Earth. How many videos exist of the first airplane hitting the WTC?

Two? I only know of two.

And the number of people in the surrounding area of the Pentagon couldn't even begin to compare to the people around the World Trade Center.

I'm not surprised that there aren't more tapes of the Pentagon strike. I find myself surprised that there are any.

[ClusterFreak]

13. Assuming no one, no private citizen, no professional journalist....

...shot video of the Pentagon strike....there were security video cameras close by, at a Sheraton hotel and at a gas station across the street. Not to mention traffic cameras in the area. Not to mention the fact that this event happened at the Pentagon . Even your local 7-11 has better video surveillance than a series of shaky still frames.

[Bushknew]

14. Why not release the gas or hotel video?

This "new" video is of the same angle that we’ve seen before.

I saw no plane hit the Pentagon in this "new" video.

[ediedidcare]

15. Photoshop Expert Here...

I did a little experiment using one frame from the old gas station stills and the corresponding
frame from the new stills released today. What I found was that the Pentagon perspective roof line was a dead-on
match with only a slight rotation to the left on the new shot ( these shots were the frames with the orange explosion bloom
consistent in both shots down to the specks of debris).

Everything lined up except for the immediate foreground - it is as if the same camera was used except the new shot
thrusts forward about 10-15 feet and eliminates the service station island there by giving an unobstructed view of the
speeding nosecone ( bullshit if this is 77) this object immediately smears out to a white streak identical to the old
still collection.

In my opinion this is a shockingly crude fake.