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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:10 AM
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Pics of plane flying into Pentagon to be released today???
Edited on Tue May-16-06 11:38 AM by Fridays Child
My husband just called and said that, in about an hour, the White House will be releasing photographs of the airplane flying into the Pentagon. Is this a joke??? I mean, he's serious about the fact that he heard it, and I'm guessing he's listening to either NPR or AAR, but is somebody joking here?

Edit: It's not the White House. It's Judicial Watch. Go to http://www.judicialwatch.org/5772.shtml
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:10 AM
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1. Pretty slow Photoshoppers if you ask me
what took them so long??
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:22 AM
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23. It wasn't easy
They had to get the guy who did the angels in Dennis Madalone's "America We Stand As One" video to animate Jesus taking the airplane parts away from the crash site.
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:41 AM
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38. LOL! thanks for the laugh n/t
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LunaSea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #1
34. doing it on an Amiga.....
and it needs more ram.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #34
44. LMAO!!!
I thought the holdup was the 50,000 5 1/4 floppy inch disks they had to use? :evilgrin:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:15 PM
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:30 PM
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73. Stills are easy...Fake high speed video is MUCH harder. n/t
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:38 PM
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91. Except the quality is so bad on this surveillance video...
it could have been easily retouched using adobe premire or after effects
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:39 PM
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92. Yeah, I was expecting a lot more.n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:11 AM
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2. Haven't heard anything
but why did it take 5 years to create a realistic computer animation?

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:13 AM
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3. With government bureaucracy, that's about right..n/t
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:34 PM
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74. Actually,
I think they sped things up on this job a bit...it probably only took four years to photoshop. They just held onto it until just the right moment for release. Now's a good time. Expect news of a Rove indictment anytime thereafter.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:13 AM
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5. I just talked to him, again. He says he heard it on AAR news.
But I can't find a single thing on it. I'll keep looking.

Re: computer animation, that's exactly what I was wondering, too.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:13 AM
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4. Call him or e-mail him back and find out WHERE he heard this, please!
Thanks!

PB
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OneMoreDemocrat Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:14 AM
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7. I heard it on Air America.......
via a 'top of the hour' news break.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:14 AM
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8. See post # 5, above.
I'm very skeptical of this.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:13 AM
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6. CNN just said the video of the plane hitting the Pent will be rel. after 1
pm on Judicial Watch website.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:14 AM
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9. Oh, okay. Thank you!
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:15 AM
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11. self delete
Edited on Tue May-16-06 11:15 AM by Fridays Child
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:15 AM
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10. Wow, Bush is THAT desperate for a distraction? eom
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:53 AM
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46. Also, 60 Minutes a week or so ago said OBL doesn't have kidney problems
this after the CarlyleGroup-connected Le Figaro reported that OBL went to Dubai in July 2001

CIA AGENT ALLEGEDLY
MET BIN LADEN IN JULY
From 'Le Figaro' <1 November 2001>
Translated by Tiphaine Dickson
===========================

By Alexandra Richard
(Page 2, October 31st, 2001)
http://emperors-clothes.com/misc/lefigaro.htm

Folks, this truly is the most FUBAR administration the US has ever elected (oops ! selected -- SCOTUS did this).
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:15 AM
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12. Yes, I heard it also (CNN).
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:16 AM
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13. Here's a link...
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:21 AM
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22. This video is supposed to show a MORE DISCERNABLE IMAGE
of a plane hitting the Pentagon. (Whatever that means.)

Part of this video has been shown before, CNN not stating where.

Reported by Barbara Starr.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:20 PM
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:34 PM
Response to Reply #22
95. Flight 77 video
Where is the plane in the video ?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:17 AM
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14. And we couldn't see this in, oh, 2002, WHY "W"? nt
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #14
37. Moussaoui
They had to wait for the end of the Moussaoui trial as per judicial watch
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #37
72. Yeah right
So they wouldn't influence the trial any...Cause we all know 911 audio tapes and testimonies from victims families wouldn't really influence anything.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:17 AM
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15. I read someone mention this earlier.
Edited on Tue May-16-06 11:26 AM by gatorboy
They said Fox also reported this. Have to admit, I'm intrigued by how sudden this is...
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:19 AM
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16. Then here's the QUESTION we need to get out there:
"Why the hell did it take 5 years?"

Get that question on everyone's mind,
and this little stunt will backfire
on them.

"Say, why DID it take 5 years?"

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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #16
33. JW said they placed the FOIA request in Dec 04
evidently it took this long to get it through...
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:42 AM
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40. So why did it even require an FOIA request in the first place, then?
Why would ANYONE feel a need to CLASSIFY this footage?

WHAT is so 'secret' about this,
WHO decided it was a secret,
and WHY did they decide that?
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:43 AM
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41. Good question, I have no idea...
...
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:54 AM
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47. No pressure, I was just using your response to start rehearsing...
...my "talking points".

If folks are gonna be talking about this,
I plan to be ready.

And the nice thing is, if you can get people
to just start asking ANY questions about anything
that this Administration does, it always works
in our favor.

B*sh's BS only works when it is swallowed whole and unquestioned.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #40
59. Those are really good questions. And why today?

Maybe to obscure the Rove story that should break in the next 24-48 hours?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #59
67. Rove IS an evil genius, you know that by now, yes ? Gotta run
...maybe for my life...
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:40 PM
Response to Reply #40
76. The "official" answer...
they couldn't release it until after the Moussaoui trial was over.

:eyes:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #76
77. Beautiful! That should put an end to all these pesky questions...
...NOT!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:00 PM
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #16
90. CNN puppet said they had to wait till the Moussaoui trial was over
The lady puppet with the big glasses.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:19 AM
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17. Will it be fake? I mean, everyone knows it was actually a
rocket powered UAV operated by Saddam!

:eyes:
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joeunderdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #17
50. It's real. It's just a plane that LOOKS like a missile and
explodes on impact. It's a fuselage-free aircraft, too. Clean'up's a breeze...and so's the cover-up!
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:19 AM
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18. Barbara Starr talking about it on CNN now too. It's a video.
It's from survelience cameras from the Pentagon's parking lot.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #18
65. I remember - some of this released much earlier - still photos I think
...from the parking lot camera(s) - showing plane sliding into Pentagon and explosion.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:19 AM
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19. This will be interesting
It's also interesting that it is being reported today.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:20 AM
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20. Does it resemble a pig with wings?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:20 PM
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84. hey!
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:21 AM
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21. CNN-Talking about it now & saying it will be shown or available
in the next hour, per Barbara Starr.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #21
60. Yuck. Pics of the bodies and everything too ? CNN will censor
that out I'm sure, along with...well, everything else.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:23 AM
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24. I heard it was a video of the plane....
not pics...
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Justice Is Comin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:23 AM
Original message
My, they're going deep
in the barrel to find something that will scare the sheep back in the pen.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:23 AM
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25. Terra! Terra! Terra!
9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11
9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11
9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11

Gotta remind people why I can spy on them and break every other rule of the Constitution.

We are at war and don't you forget it!
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Tulum_Moon Donating Member (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. TOTAL BS!!!!!!!!!!!
This really pisses me off! How much more fear are they gonning to shove down our throats. If there were pictures, why NOW???????????? :mad:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #27
36. This is, apparently, the result of Judicial Watch's FOIA request...
Edited on Tue May-16-06 12:32 PM by Fridays Child
...filed in 2004. So, my original post saying that the White House is releasing photos is erroneous.
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partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:25 AM
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26. "More Discernible Image"
An image made to resemble a plane?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:27 AM
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30. It took them 5 years to photoshop that plane over the Cruise missile.
that's why the "sudden" release of the image.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:26 AM
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28. Hoo boy
:popcorn:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:27 AM
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29. Air Mexico, anyone?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:28 AM
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31. I guess its a subtle reminder of 9/11 TERRA TERRA TERRA
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:29 AM
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32. Oh, yeah, I forgot all about 9/11. Time for a reminder.
:sarcasm:
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negativenihil Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:35 AM
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35. Don't get sucked into this BS!
Edited on Tue May-16-06 11:35 AM by negativenihil
The entire section of the 9/11 truth movement that's been pushing the idea of "pods" on the jets that crashed into the WTC or the idea that a plane did NOT hit the pentagon are DISINFO AGENTS!

this is all a move to show the sheep that the entire 9/11 truth movement cannot be trusted.

There were no Pods, and a plane HIT the pentagon, end of story.

The timing however, couldn't be better for el presidente bush. the sheep need a reminder of why it's ok for the feds to be spying on them and the mention of 9/11 has worked like a charm thus far.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:08 PM
Response to Reply #35
81. what about
I keep hearing, that no parts of the plane were ever recovered there. is that disinfo too?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:41 AM
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39. WTH?!
I'd like to see this but why show this five years later? It would have been interesting to see this right after it happened. This is fishy!
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #39
42. We still have not seen the okie city bombing tapes....
Makes one wonder.

in this case though - damned if you and if you don't. We saw plenty of tape of planes hitting WTC and people still deny it was planes. Some people will only believe what they want.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:49 AM
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43. They sure did re-sod that grass quickly too ! eom
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lala_rawraw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:52 AM
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45. Wow... it is like the gov is triping over itself to get info out suddenly
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #45
55. Makes you wish NSA could translate those tapes from 9-10 faster too
Edited on Tue May-16-06 12:04 PM by EVDebs
Huh ?

www.airamericaradio.com/node/2038
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:55 AM
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48. Quick!!! Look over there!
Be afraid... Be very afraid... This could happen again -- to you! -- if you elect Democrats in 2006. :scared:
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #48
78. This could happen again.
Right, like it takes a Dem administration to shut down the Pentagon missiles
defending from air attack. And also to make sure that fighters at Andrews
ten miles away stay on the ground, and fighters at Langley fly straight out
to sea instead of defending DC.
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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:56 AM
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49. GOOD. The Pentagon is a divisive distraction to 9/11 truthseekers
The most compelling evidence is not the physical evidence, it's all of the behind the scenes behavior in the lead-up to the attacks. The new documentary "Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime" shows that angle very well. It's on Google video.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #49
63. A Pentagon guy was posting to Sen Kerry's website during the election
regarding the veracity of the plane-into-Pentagon stuff. For what it's worth, you'd think the NSA would have monitored that guy, since he claimed to be wanting Kerry to win.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:57 AM
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51. Why don't they just release the CCTV archives?
They didn't seem to want anyone to see those.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #51
52. What's CCTV?n/t
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negativenihil Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #52
56. Closed Circuit Television.
Commonly used for video surveillance in stores and such.

I think the CCTV footage in question was shot by an adjacent gas station.
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Tin Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:26 PM
Response to Reply #56
70. Pentagon parking security cam pix - initially released several years ago
...if this is the same tape that the WH is "releasing" today, they're really stretching to change the subject - nothing new about these pix.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:01 PM
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54. Is this eastern time? So now?
Edited on Tue May-16-06 12:03 PM by jasmeel
The website's super sloooow. I can't get it to refresh.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:03 PM
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57. I'm watching Fox today...They are all over it.
Fox News alert.

(I wanted to see tony snow in action)
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:04 PM
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58. God-they're gonna LOVE this story.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #58
61. Yucky if the pics of the bodies are allowed to be shown...eom
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negativenihil Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:08 PM
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62. Judicial Watch seems to be getting hammered w/ traffic ATM n/t
Edited on Tue May-16-06 12:08 PM by negativenihil
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #62
64. You can also look at JW's maps of Iraqi Oil fields while waiting for the
9-11 stuff. Also, the Quakers weblink to the map of Permanent Bases in Iraq

www.fcnl.org/iraq/bases.htm

makes a good cross-reference. Cheney's plan all along was to seize SOME oil fields in the ME since Nixon's plan in 1973

www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0102-01.htm

Yes, indeed, LOOK OVER THERE ! is at it once again, DUers. Don't be taken in.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:24 PM
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69. WHAT THE #%$@* IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?


Buncha Doubting Thomases...

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:28 PM
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71. Brilliant
:thumbsup:
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:35 PM
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75. DS1, I hope you're not implying that this picture is anything but
An honest-to-God on-the-scene documentary record of what happened that day!
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:06 PM
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79. well...
Pete Williams of MSNBC just reported on this and he's either seen or been briefed on this new release - he said there's only a very tiny part of the plane that shows in it and it's hard to see. He said it probably won't satisfy the 'conspiracy theorists'.

So there ya go...
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:07 PM
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80. judicial watch website is down
I get a 404.

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:01 PM
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89. Yup. I've been trying for over an hour.
probably a few hundred thousand people are hoping to get a look.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:16 PM
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82. I watched it on CNN 10 or so minutes ago.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:29 PM
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85. CNN video shows the aftermath. Not the supposed direct hit
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:54 PM
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86. I only caught 20 or so seconds of it
It reeked of desperate propaganda.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:59 PM
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88. It all seems so transparent now.
:-(
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:19 PM
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83. Its the same Goddamned video from the same 'security' camera..
Same shit...reheated..served on the same plate.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 01:54 PM
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87. hmmmf! Assholes!
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:41 PM
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93. I can't access the site all day.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:47 PM
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94. Link isn't working for me.
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